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Could House Speaker Paul Ryan Follow Eric Cantor Into Political Oblivion?
The New American ^ | Bob Adelmann | 05 August 2016

Posted on 08/07/2016 1:41:07 AM PDT by detective

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To: b4its2late

See link in post #20


21 posted on 08/07/2016 3:41:53 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I agree with that analysis.


22 posted on 08/07/2016 3:49:40 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Future Snake Eater

I think you may have missed the point here. Zero has set the precedent. Trump does not need Congress. They have made themselves irrelevant.


23 posted on 08/07/2016 3:55:35 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Excellent response on his part. Even if he doesn’t appreciate Trump’s endorsement of Nehlen’s opponent, he acknowledges the strategic reasons behind it and short-circuits yet another possible “GOP CIVIL WAR!!11!!!1” news cycle.

I hope this guy wins.


24 posted on 08/07/2016 3:57:37 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: detective

25 posted on 08/07/2016 3:58:40 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Excellent point! I get the feeling that Trump already has surrogates pushing for Nehlen. If Nehlen wins (I pray to God he does!), I think his ire for Trump will be minimal.


26 posted on 08/07/2016 3:59:14 AM PDT by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: "Prepare for some serious 2016 house cleaning. Trump/Pence 2016!")
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To: detective

Why did Trump endorse him? Has he lost his mind? What has this piece of rat filth Ryan EVER done for Trump?


27 posted on 08/07/2016 4:00:32 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (By His wounds we are healed.)
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To: wastoute

That’s not the point here, but your scenario is also a possibility which really makes Trump’s endorsement a non-issue.


28 posted on 08/07/2016 4:01:08 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: PIF

Why? Ryan is obviously a Democrat posing as a Republican. I can’t see how any person can honestly support this guy and call themselves a Republican, it’s like voting for Nancy Pelosi.


29 posted on 08/07/2016 4:01:57 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (By His wounds we are healed.)
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To: PIF

Well.....it’s anecdotal unless you’ve personally polled everyone who lives in that town.......and they gave you an honest answer.

You gave a rather broad statement.


30 posted on 08/07/2016 4:06:04 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: Tonytitan
5) Trump endorses Ryan, both win their elections. Trump tells Nehlen “Now that I’m President, I’m free to endorse you in 2018. Stay ready”.

That's now how this works. Nehlen's set to catch a possible tsunami. The odds of him being able to repeat this upset, even with the support of POTUS (why would the President get involved here?) is highly unlikely. This is Nehlen's shot, and he's doing a good job making the most of it.

If Ryan's not worried, he'd better reexamine the situation.

31 posted on 08/07/2016 4:06:08 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: detective

Trump endorsed Ryan yesteday. I wish he hadn’t. Ryan will now win.


32 posted on 08/07/2016 4:06:31 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

You absolutely don’t know this.....
....so stop throwing shade on Trump!


33 posted on 08/07/2016 4:13:02 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I have been repeatedly making this point for a year. The actions of any person do not exist in a vacuum, behavior is a play set on the stage of the environment. The Founding Fathers were able to do what they did because the “stage had been set”. (Think Jung, Zeitgeist). The current stage has been set and at it’s center is a tyrant’s throne with all the attendant levers of power in place. This throne has been carefully crafted over the span of a century. The election will determine who gets access to it. Our hope is Trump will use it to “change the course of history” creating a NEW stage for a return to the virtues that once blessed our country.

Our next leader will be a tyrant. No other possibility. Where that leader takes us is the question and only God can determine that. Once having earned that throne only Trump provides any possibility that it will be used in our behalf and only Trump and God have any idea whether Trump will do it.


34 posted on 08/07/2016 4:15:29 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: hawaiianninja

I haven’t detected a single bit of ‘ire’ directed toward Mr. Trump from Paul Nehlen.
Quite the opposite really!


35 posted on 08/07/2016 4:16:14 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do....)
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To: detective
I don't know, but I'm gonna watch and find out. 😀 Go Trump
36 posted on 08/07/2016 4:18:56 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: SkyPilot
Trump endorsed Ryan yesteday. I wish he hadn’t. Ryan will now win.

Ryan wins big with or without Trump's endorsement. It's irrelevant.

This was about Trump trying to salvage something of the Ryan-Walker-Johnson coalition that controls the Wisconsin GOP in hopes of being able to compete there in the general.

Ryan is far more powerful and popular in Wisconsin than Trump is.

37 posted on 08/07/2016 4:19:55 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: PIF

“Ryan is heavily favored in his district and most people there like him and dislike the other guy - just saying.”.......

Sounds to me like “hear say”. We’ll know on Wednesday.


38 posted on 08/07/2016 4:21:28 AM PDT by DaveA37 (t)
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To: DeSoto
Tom Foley was one, I’m pretty sure there are others.

Foley lost the general election not the primary.

39 posted on 08/07/2016 4:21:59 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Future Snake Eater
3) Trump endorses Ryan, Ryan wins. Trump has some clout with Ryan and who now owes Trump a favor or two.

Ryan is going to win and win big. He will give Trump no credit for it and will instead be a thorn in the side of a President Trump. We all know that will be what happens.

40 posted on 08/07/2016 4:21:59 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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