The Hidden Vote

The Charlie Rose Show ^ | 8/7/16 | Robert Costa

[EliRoom8]

See clip at about 5:55 in for a very interesting insight.

[M-cubed]

Hear Hear!!....I’ll second that!!!

[Huck]

Costa is dead on. I have said before I know a LOT of those previously-disengaged voters. Tradesmen who haven’t voted in decades, who would run through a burning building to vote for Trump.

[M-cubed]

there are vast numbers of them. <<

I truly believe that!..my main concern now is are there enough to overcome the “Voting Machines”......

(I hope and pray the fact that Trump has mentioned it “in passing” is telling me He's already on top of it...Just waiting for the right moment to make it an issue )

[spintreebob]

Agreed on the bogus poll.
Undecided has a much larger percentage than normal.
The candidates can’t do much more to influence these undecided except to make mistakes and alienate them.

These undecided will make up their minds based on their contact with supporters of the two candidates. Do the Trump supporters know how to make friends and influence people? That is the question.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

Take a seat indeed.Great post.

[Tonytitan]

The point was in what the reporter from the WP said regarding this unseen factor of first time voters, or voters who didn’t bother in 2008 or 2012 and had essentially given up on politics.

The other "unseen factor" will be the number of folks who voted in 2008 or 1012 who will forget to go to the polls in November because there's not an Obama clone on the ballot.

[Biggirl]

Which is why support for Mr. Trump will be very quiet.

[RipSawyer]

“The other “unseen factor” will be the number of folks who voted in 2008 or 1012 who will forget to go to the polls in November because there’s not an Obama clone on the ballot.”

Didn’t Obama have a white grandmother who died? I could swear I saw her running against Trump!

[Gargantua]

"Fact? Really? And what poll would this be?

My favorite electric guitar is a 1995 MIM Fender Strat, black body, white pickguard, maple neck, three single coils. Played through my '75 Twin Reverb Silver Face with twin JBL K-series 12's, it's so sweet it'll make you weep.

Second favorite is a silver Ibanez ART 100 (looks like a Gibson Les Paul) with dual Humbuckers and the lowest action possible. I prefer this through my Bugera 6260 head with the Marshall 1964 Stack.

My third favorite is an ESP M103 QM, see-through blue over Quilted Maple bookmatched top, SSH configuration with a Licensed Flloyd Rose Tremolo and locking nut. Stays in tune for months. Marshall Plexi JTM 45/100 makes her scream.

I mention it in the hopes of finding you in a better mood. This poll I mention was widely discussed here on FR two days ago. While opinions can vary, facts remain facts, even for guitar pickin' sailor boys.

[Stentor]

And you’ll never believe WHAT Charlie Rose says next!

Video won't go ahead for me and I won't sit for 5 minutes of Stalinists.

[Stentor]

The point was in what the reporter from the WP said regarding this unseen factor of first time voters, or voters who didn’t bother in 2008 or 2012 and had essentially given up on politics.

Thanks.

[IrishBrigade]

there are vast numbers of them. <<

which does nothing if they don’t exercise the vote...there are two demographics that matter in this election; college whites, and non college whites...the college whites voted at 77% in 2012, a huge percentage, and Romney took them by 56%. he should have won easily, with that; why didn’t he...? because non college turnout was 20 points lower,while polling 62% for Romney...

now, assuming an erosion of 5% in the college bunch for Trump (at the very least, IMHO), the nons are going to have to increase their numbers, both in turnout and the Trump vote, by about 13%, in order to offset that erosion...women in 2012 outvoted men by 6%, and since there is every liklihood that gap will increase, the non college vote must turnout all the more...

the numbers will have to be vast, indeed, to offset the hostile demographics terrain for Trump...

[KavMan]

LOL

You’re still thinking the unbeatable Obama will be running again =)

[Gargantua]

"Do the Trump supporters know how to make friends...

Spoken like a man unfamiliar with any "Trump supporters," as much as stating that you, yourself, are not one.

Great. So FU.

[IrishBrigade]

You’re still thinking the unbeatable Obama will be running again =)

if you had actually read my post, you would have seen I stated that Romney should have won (conversely, that Obama should have lost) given his numbers with college white turnout and vote total...any erosion in that demographic (and there will be erosion) and you don’t need an unbeatable candidate to win...

which you would know...if you had actually read my ommentary...

[KavMan]

LOL Romney would not have won!

Helmut Norpoth said in January that Obama would win Reelection

https://youtu.be/nuGnpa0yreg?t=182

He also gives TRUMP a 87% of being POTUS

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/helmut-norpoth/trump-nearcertain-to-defe_b_9403762.html

https://www.sbstatesman.com/2016/02/23/political-science-professor-forecasts-trump-as-general-election-winner/

http://www.newsday.com/opinion/my-model-shows-donald-trump-has-an-87-percent-chance-of-beating-hillary-clinton-1.12102905

[central_va]

Not a great interview. Skip to minute 6:00. The first 6:00 are conventional palp for WaPo.

[IamConservative]

How many people exist in todays United States like me that cannot be polled? I have no land line, I don’t answer cell calls from unknown numbers and I don’t respond to online poll solicitations, but I do vote in every election.

This has to be negatively influencing the reliability of polls. There is an inherent sample bias built-in.

[capt. norm]

" Charley Rose is a Richard Cranium. For the curious, that would be: Dick Head."

Love it!.....and I'll be stealing it later today when some friends come over.

[DaveA37]

“Something went wrong” label right on the face of the article. Won’t open. Can someone provide another link?