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The GOP’s Jewish Donors Are Abandoning Trump
FiveThirtyEight ^ | 9/21/16 | Titan Hersh Brian Schaffner

Posted on 09/21/2016 10:12:35 PM PDT by Timpanagos1

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To: Timpanagos1

Why would Jews give $$ to a Muslim Brotherhood candidate???


61 posted on 09/22/2016 4:19:40 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Timpanagos1

I doubt that this report is the truth..


62 posted on 09/22/2016 5:06:45 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Timpanagos1
Yeah, whatever. We hear this every four years. I'm a Jew and a Trump supporter and so are legions who won't talk about it. Liberals get all verklempt about the possibility of falling off the Red Sea Pedestrian Gravy Train. Guess what? The world is running out of commies.
63 posted on 09/22/2016 5:09:47 AM PDT by golux
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To: FreedomStar3028
It’s like they want to go back into the train cars and death camps.

Classy.
64 posted on 09/22/2016 5:10:14 AM PDT by golux
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To: Timpanagos1

Very sad.


65 posted on 09/22/2016 6:21:47 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: exnavy
Why the attraction for Jews? I don’the understand.

I have a long-winded but I think accurate answer for you. I am a Conservative Jew so what I have to say, I think, is pretty accurate.

Ever since Abraham rejected idolatry, some 5,000 years ago, Jews have been “Revolutionary”, never accepting the status quo.

Jews are JUSTICE oriented and have always favored change and the improvement of the human condition, all over the planet since the dawn of civilization.
Why do you think so many of them bought the Obamian logo of Hope & “change” and “yes we can” B.S.? Jews LOVE change, crave change, almost worship questioning current accepted norms and changing things. It's part of our education. So, it is no surprise that throughout history, Jews have championed change, revolutions, movements and even radicalism. Jews MISTAKENLY embraced Socialism and Communism, because it promised to, one, make them EQUALS to their Christian neighbors and two, promised to help them throw off the chains of the Ghetto/Shtetl existence and finally bring them into the mainstream culture. Little did they know that about 100 years later after their emancipation, they would be not-accepted again by their neighbors and annihilated by the Nazis and all their collaborators. So, the Jews threw their lot in with the Communists, who used and abused them and then with the Socialists who use and abused them too. Every movement the Jews joined, eventually spat of them and booted them out and persecuted them. Today they support a growing, radicalized and very hostile Democratic party but they refuse to see it. Only in the late 19th century did some Jews cling to a new movement, for and about Jews, Zionism. Now, after 130 so years many Jews have even turned on their own national liberation movement. These are self-hating Jews who believe in Progressiveness for all peoples all over the world EXCEPT their beleaguered brothers &* sisters in Israel fighting the West's fight. So, Jews support movements for change and have always been in the forefront of that change. From the Bible, through the Middle Ages to the 19th century Liberation and syndicalization movements down to our very own Jerry Rubin and Abby Hoffman and to Bernard "Lefty" Sanders. Jews, (mistakenly) want change and a bizarre sense of Justice for all, except themselves. It's all about hoping for the best while not being realistic. The ONLY realistic Jews today are the Israelis who face death on an hourly basis because they are...strong Jews who have a strong sense of purpose and the most truest sense of REAL justice,,, survival. BTW, most Israelis would vote for Trump.

66 posted on 09/22/2016 6:42:42 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a waty ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: Yaelle
"...My extended family know I am conservative barely tolerate me..."

I have more in common with you, a Jew, than I do my own family!

My family barely tolerates me also. I have transited from disappointment to pure disdain. My wife comes from a tight family, and just doesn't get it when I say "They are dead to me!" in a Yiddish accent.

Wait: is that cultural appropriation?

67 posted on 09/22/2016 6:53:52 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Timpanagos1

I think this claim is incorrect. Plenty of Jewish people are strongly supporting Trump. Clinton and Obama are awful and people paying attention know that. Almost everything Trump says is patently correct and important and good for the country and for all who want a viable future for themselves and their families. The Democratic Party has long since become dangerous for all but terrorists.


68 posted on 09/22/2016 7:29:52 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Netz

Netz, interesting analysis.

I have to ask you a question: Is there an ingredient of wanting to maintain Jewish identity in the face of national identity of nations which are not majority Jewish?

Could that be an aspect of the apparent Jewish propensity for anti-nationalism . . . and even for the attraction to internationalist communism which you described?


69 posted on 09/22/2016 7:53:35 AM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Timpanagos1

Maybe it’s just good business. They figure he doesn’t need the money. (snort)


70 posted on 09/22/2016 7:54:06 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will be one People, under one God, saluting one American flag. --Donald Trump (standing ovation))
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To: Netz

Very interesting, thank you.


71 posted on 09/22/2016 7:57:03 AM PDT by exnavy ( psalm 27: 4)
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To: Alberta's Child

The Reform Movement and Conservative Movement and Reconstructionist Movement and the “Renewal” Movement and the ADL and other organizations like operate among the Jewish people are as they are today because they were infiltrated by Marxists and Socialists.

These politicos, some consciously, others naively with displaced idealism, distorted the core beliefs of the religion to fit the Marxist infiltration that they did simultaneously in academics and in government. Their children learned the same propaganda in school and from their clergy. They did among the Reform and Conservative Movements and even somewhat among the Orthodox Union, what they did elsewhere, including with the Quakers, the Lutherans, and some other Protestant movements and a lot of the Catholic Church They confuse the priorities of these “progressive” movements to such an extent that they turned the core of the religion on its head, making themselves a wholly owned political subsidiary of the ever more infiltrated Democratic Party.

They pushed God’s laws under the rug, pretending they didn’t exist, in favor of the DNC’s platforms.

The covenant with God as outlined in the Torah was to follow his laws, written and oral. Too many clergy have been led to such a confused state, which they confuse with the whopper of a misnomer, “social justice,” that they confuse the regency of God (b’malchut shaddai) with the regency of Barack and Hillary. This is equally true also for many, many Christian schools of clergy training. Those who manipulate them keep telling them that the Muslim Jihadist “refugees” and their neighborhood sodomites are in the same boat as persecuted Jews under the Nazis. This is nonsense, but the claim pushes hot bottons, and the propagandists know that this claim is their shortcut to stopping conversation and winning the day.

It’s a case of continuously self-reinforced delusion and continuing propaganda from without. Jews who escaped the Soviet Union learned firsthand, in stark contrast, know for themselves from firsthand experience that the Democratic Party is the very same dangerous worldview and repressive, horrendous system that murdered, incarcerated and repressed them in all areas of their lives. This is what they fled.


72 posted on 09/22/2016 8:09:09 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: dp0622

You are delusional in your belief of great wealth among Jews. Your comments are straight out of Nazi propaganda.


73 posted on 09/22/2016 8:11:23 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Timpanagos1

The Jews who vote Republican seems already seems like a meaningless small amount, am I wrong? They are also largely concentrated in a few states like New York though I know they are in other places.


74 posted on 09/22/2016 10:13:23 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Front Page Mag supports Trump; aren’t a lot of their writers Jewish? But I agree, there seems to be a bit of a lag in support with big money donors at least.


75 posted on 09/22/2016 10:15:25 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

First of all, you’re disgusting for the comment you sent me.

I am a YUGE Israeli and Jewish supporter.

Second, it is a GREAT TESTAMENT to a people when half of American billionaires are Jewish and they only make up 2 percent of the population.

That is a GREAT thing to be PROUD of because HARD WORK, FOCUS ON EDUCATION, SACRIFICE AND DISCIPLINE MAKE IT HAPPEN.

How I WISH Italians strived harder, but I AM PROUD that they are among the top now in college graduation rates and that TWO SC justices were Italian.

We make up 5 percent of the country and represented nearly TWENTY FIVE percent of the SC!!!

For whatever reason, you think wealth is a bad thing.

You are not a conservative. You are, however, an idiot for comparing my comments to nazi propaganda.

Of course not all Jews are wealthy. Not even close!! 80 percent dont even have a net worth of 1 million in this country, which is not a large figure anymore. Heck, if you own a house that is 50 years old, chances are you are worth a million.

And none of my Jewish friends are wealthy. All working and middle class folk, all with incredibly warm hearted parents, many of who treated me like a son.

Still, Jews have the highest average income in America of 100k per year. I WOULD BE THRILLED if it were italians.

And if you said “italians are the wealthiest people in the US”, I would jump up and down with glee. I wouldn’t accuse you of REALLY meaning it’s because of the mafia that we are wealthy.

And dont think i dont SEE RED when italian union folk support billary. I bounce OFF THE WALLS!!!!

The rush to unsupported horrific accusations should be a thing of the pat.

Thank God there are few of you who still do it.


76 posted on 09/22/2016 12:23:28 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

You wrote about all the “Jewish billionaires.” That was apparently your first thought. I responded to that canard used by the Nazis to fan the historic fires of jealousy of the Jewish people who have succeeded in business, when all other paths of livelihood, like the traditional professions and land ownership, were closed to them. Hillary calls me “deplorable,” you call me “disgusting.” I’ll need to be another new T-shirt today.


77 posted on 09/22/2016 1:41:52 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Reno89519

Trump is soliciting financial help.


78 posted on 09/22/2016 1:42:54 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

There you go again.

Self pity and disgusting insinuations are what they are, no matter who yo are.

Neither if flattering

And AGAIN, It’s a GREAT thing to have so many billionaires with such a small population yet your are embarrassed for Jews.

They dont need your pity for being successful.


79 posted on 09/22/2016 1:45:11 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Maybe they get on board or leave their future to Clinton. Kind of their choice. If they do not support him, hopefully Trump will ignore them afterward.


80 posted on 09/22/2016 1:45:55 PM PDT by Reno89519 (It is very simple, Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine. Good riddance Lyn' Ted, we regret ever knowing you)
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