Posted on 09/21/2016 10:12:35 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
Your thinking, sadly, displays a basic mean spiritedness. Trump, if elected, will do the right thing, I believe. He has common sense about what can save our country and the rest of the free world. It has nothing to do with “payback time.” I am weary of the Christian world expecting Jews to be more Christian than Christians.
Your response is a Rorschach response of your thinking. You think I pity billionaires? That I am embarrassed by them and especially embarrassed if they are Jewish? On what basis did you project that bogus accusation?
Would that there would be many, many more freedom-loving billionaires of all religions, anxious to put their resources into supporting traditional values that have made America a blessed country because of its adherence to JudaeoChristian values and standards.
May I suggest that we have BOTH read into each other’s minds and we read wrongly.
I dont have to share this story and I dont give a #### if it’s believed or not.
I was driving past an orthodox Jewish school when i was about 22. Great neighborhood and had a catholic friend that happened to live there and i was visiting. Kid named Paul. Very good guitarist.
Anyways, I feel bad when people might feel the rest of the county or city or State ostracizes them because they dress or look different or have different practices from most. So I pulled over and asked the kids, maybe 12 and 13, what went on inside the Temple and what they were going in for, school, prayer, both? If they liked Staten Island and a few other small talk questions.
Meanwhile I was in FULL guido mode at that point in my life and they must have thought i was NUTS lol. They looked terrified, the OPPOSITE of why I pulled over, but they got comfortable fast and we chatted a little, their pops caught up and they were stand up guys. We chatted a little.
I might not say things the right way and may be rough round the edges, (BTW, i don’t know what the #### your first Sentence (rorschach) meant :), probably don’t want to).
Anyway, if what I posted originally came across to you as something that a nazi would say, I would be sick to my stomach if that’s how it was perceived.
I apologize if that’s how you interpreted it. I can’t apologize for thinking like those sadistic sick f##ks, cause I dont.
Anyway paesan, we can start over or you can hold what you think i meant against me and vice versa. I’d rather we didn’t.
Mark here. Good to meet you. muslims and liberals are the enemy, not each other.
Pax vobiscum, amice. Peace be with you, friend.
Paesan!
I feel MUCH better.
When I stop arguing, it’s usually for one of two reasons..1. I may have been wrong and wasn’t looking at the other person’s point of view..2. the other person is smarter than me :)
In this case it was both!
Ciao!
Its exactly where the Democrats will lead them.
Could that be an aspect of the apparent Jewish propensity for anti-nationalism . . . and even for the attraction to internationalist communism which you described?
My view:
Throughout history Jews have “toed the line” in that they maintained their heritage no matter where they lived and under periods of persecution and periods of relative calm.
Jews maintained strict loyalty to G-d and Torah despite the dominant society wherever they lived (as guests of that host nation in my book). Jews honored the powers where they lived. Usually, when the host country turned nationalistic or a new ruler took over, the Jews ate crow. A new Pope, a new king, a benevolent ruler, a despot, a new conquering power, wars, etc. Jews respected the dominant (Christian or Muslim)society and followed the rules while maintaining their devotion to their traditions. So their lives were compatible with their surroundings. Unfortunately, the Jews were never left alone to live their lives as ruler and power after power slaughtered them, over and over again. The issue of “dual loyalties” and blood libels always surfaced and the Jews were decimated by these accusations. Jewish identity is to be maintained at all times, forever (keeping G-d’s promises) while respecting their neighbors. The issue of national identity and spiritually identity should not be a dilemma. Jews live as a majority in one country on Earth - Israel.
If Jews are anti-nationalists it means they are anti extremists. Nationalists usually singled out the Jews as a threat to their country and way of life. The result? Pogroms and murder of the Jewish communities. So, historically, Jews developed a sense of fear and foreboding with Nationalist (Fascist) movements so...they moved to the Left with it's universalist appeal and unfortunately Communism, Socialism, Syndicalism, Internationalism, Collectivism and even Zionism, which is Jewish nationalism as well.
The Left was more appealing because it promised EQUALITY for all. This was the Jews opportunity to break out of the persecution, misery and poverty that they lived in for centuries.
To this very day, Jews are “blinded” by promises of Equality, parity, social liberation and as I stated in my previous post, the Obamian promise of Hope and Change. For some inexplicable reason, these Liberal Jews do not learn the lessons of history when, after all they have been through, they should!
4 am
Wondering who Bibi supports.
Don't know why Jews would be scared of Trump. Do they not know that his now famous daughter, Ivanka, IS JEWISH as well as her husband and Trump's son-in-law, along with their 3 children? If Trump was any bit anti-Jewish or anti-Semite, I doubt his son-in-law and daughter would be out vigorously campaigning for him.
Also, Trump has been famous and a big shot in NYC for 40 years now and if he was racists or anti-Semitic, it would have come out long age.
Never Hillary too.
Thank you for your thoughtful and, I believe, on-target answer to my question.
Jews who are Conservative or Torah oriented naturally cling to the Right along the political spectrum while assimilated, ignorant Jews, cling to the Left.
true, but not enough to vote against her unfortunately.
Wait, what am I saying? The GOP cheats too. Between the two of them they have even robbed the future of its lives (abortion), fortunes (inflation, debt, unfunded entitlements) and sacred honors (cultural depravity).
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