Posted on 11/03/2016 7:43:33 AM PDT by ColdOne
If we keep on quailing about “what the Rats will accuse” then we will never go anywhere. Rats never quail about “what the GOP will accuse” except in the rare case, as now, that it gets legs.
Maybe Obama is right, Comey would do well to have a different job. Assistant attorney general?
OK so we have an FBI Director who seems to have ignored evidence and refused to indict someone for criminal infractions, possibly for purely political reasons. Something the Republican candidate has condemned time and time again on the campaign trail. Then that same FBI director releases some information which could tilt the election one way, also possibly for political reasons. And your solution for that is to promote him? Really?
Remember, the USSC says that cops CAN lie... how do we know that this “failure” wasn’t actually a feint designed to let Hillary flout the law more boldly and obviously?
So yes, really.
This truly is Clinton’s Hindenberg moment. An illusory campaign puffed up by the gasbags in the media, but ready to explode with the right spark. Wikileaks, O’Keefe and Trump’s own fortitude have created that spark and Clinton’s campaign is magnificently crashing and burning as we speak.
Don't discount the spin machine that would be the combination of the new corrupt administration and the enabling MSM if Hillary were to be elected, bolstered by their celebratory mood and desire to vanquish the Republican party once and for all.
There is a HUGE difference in outcome if Trump is elected, versus Hillary. Trump has the gonads to go after ALL of them, Hillary would just cover it up.
If you don't believe me, wait another few weeks. Their best option: OBAMA to issue pardons when (not if) there are indictments -- and that's why the other side is rushing to prepare them now, so when Trump is elected they can bring them against the perps quickly. They must do that in order for the window of opportunity for pardons to be effective -- Obama will pardon them after the election but before the swearing-in ceremony.
If there are no indictments before Obama leaves, there are no pardons (or at least many fewer, later under Trump -- in exchange for the cooperation of the pardon recipients for their help going after the big fish).
The fate of the perpetrators is ABSOLUTELY contingent on the outcome of the election!
The pardons have no bearing on the facts of this case, and the facts of the case are absolutely devastating no matter how the legal process plays out.
Yes, and I would say the spark was fanned into flames by a skeptical Clinton-weary public, outraged FBI agent insiders, and the blogosphere.
Obama can't issue pardons if there are no indictments!
Indictments are conditional on the facts of the case, therefore pardons are too.
The timing of the indictments determines who issues the pardons.
I'm willing to bet a lot of money that Obama will issue pardons regardless of whether they're even appropriate under the law.
I can see your scenario. Sure. Why not?
You treat people like utter garbage for so long and eventually they say “NO! AND F**K YOU!!!”
Just ask the Ceausescus.
Maybe we’re talking past each other.
The impeachment of Nixon was under way, and a virtual certainty in outcome, as was the certainty of a conviction in the full senate.
I said indictment, not conviction. That’s what impeachment in the house is, for the purposes of political process — the senate convicts.
The Justice Department could also issue an indictment — that would also invite a pardon.
I don’t think we’re talking past each other. If Barack Obama issues a blanket pardon in January to a few key players in the whole debacle, we’ll see what happens.
Assuming she wins, she can't be impeached before she is sworn in (and can't be impeached as SoS or any other publicly held office).
But if a criminal indictment is offered by the Justice Department before Obama leaves, a pardon can (and likely will) be issued by Obama.
Timing is everything.
This could drag even Boy Blunder into a criminal investigation. Obama’s reputation will take a hit if he pardons the Hag but if he doesn’t she might drag him down with her. Better to pardon her and put it all to bed if he can. But there are lots of people in the Clinton Crime Foundation, Bill, Chelsea, Huma, Mills, etc... is he going to pardon all of them to keep the lid on this stink bomb? Yes.
We can only hope.... he used a pseudonym in his communications with her, and many of her emails came with non-government suffixes. How could he not know ("heard about it on the news")? How many of his personal communications with Hillary were among the 650,000? How many among the 650,000 were classified, and did any of them have Obama as originator or addressee?
How long will it be before the 650,000 emails are made public (and how heavily redacted will they be)? Does WikiLeaks already have them?
What will Trump do?
We live in interesting times.
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