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1 posted on 11/08/2016 8:09:26 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

I admire Prager for his sanity. Medved, not so much.


2 posted on 11/08/2016 8:11:38 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: servo1969

This country has been in a functional interregnum for 8 years, IMO. There has been someone who has pretended to be President (The King, Le Roi, His Majesty, The Czar, blah blah blah)but it’s been nothing but lawlessness with respect to the US Constitution, and anarchy in the way its agencies oppress us - dearly.

Drain the swamp? Great idea, but the need is there still to suck up all the muck and mire, filth, turds and toxic waste that still doesn’t go down the drain. Not nearly enough - it has to be full cleansing, like a Super Fund cleanup, but in earnest and for reals.


3 posted on 11/08/2016 8:17:56 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: servo1969

Win or lose today we need to make sure that we purge the GOP of the never-trumpers. They are disloyal and are willing to sacrifice the party for their own ego.


4 posted on 11/08/2016 8:18:51 AM PST by sipow
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To: servo1969

Never Trumpers simply aren’t leaders.

They are the flock of the flustered.


6 posted on 11/08/2016 8:24:36 AM PST by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: servo1969

Let me just say what I said to my little sister when she asked me what I thought:
If Trump becomes President things may go bad or they may go quite well. It remains to be seen.
If Hillary becomes President things are going to go very bad, no doubt whatsoever. It’s not even a question of ‘if’ - only how soon and how bad.
That’s the choice before us.


7 posted on 11/08/2016 8:25:37 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969
The second is their self-image: How can they, truly decent people, vote for someone who has exhibited the uncouth speech and behavior that Trump has? Or, as some have expressed it, "How can I explain to my daughter that I supported Donald Trump?"

I had no problem explaining my decision to vote for Trump - and in doing so vote for America - to my daughters. And I felt no need to resort to the "lesser evil" argument in order to do so.

Trump wasn't my first choice but you go to war with the army you have and he quickly became my only choice. I have become well acquainted with the concept of "insufficiently conservative" - to some, practically no one can ever possibly measure up. And many have examined Donald Trump and found him wanting. But there exists in him a combination of pragmatism and force of character and courage that I believe is exactly what our nation needs most - especially after nearly sixteen years of mealy-mouthed nitwits.

All in all a good essay from Prager.

8 posted on 11/08/2016 8:28:17 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: servo1969
Thomas Jefferson, that great Author of the Declaration of Independence and President of the United States provided us with an indisputable reason for rejecting a Hillary presidency:
"I am not among those who fear the people. They...are our dependence for continued freedom. And to preserve their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people...must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they (the British) now do, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers....This example reads to us the salutary lesson that private fortunes are destroyed by public, as well as by private extravagance. And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from the principle in one instance, becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the 'bellum omnium in omnia,' which some philosophers...have mistaken for the natural, instead of the abusive, state of man. And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." - Thomas Jefferson

12 posted on 11/08/2016 8:45:09 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: servo1969
Thanks Dennis, great follow through to the every end.
15 posted on 11/08/2016 8:59:39 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were election day. They voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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To: servo1969
There are two groups of Never-Trump in the GOP.

Both groups are motivated by personal conviction.

One group is guided by moral conviction.

They refuse to endorse a man who has lived a morally reckless life and frequently bragged about it.

The other group is guided by political conviction.

They are center-left Republicans, who support most of the Democratic Party agenda.

Win or lose, the GOP will not exist as a coherent political party after 2016.

16 posted on 11/08/2016 9:09:53 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: servo1969
To prove my point, one of my favorite Never-Trumpers, Jonah Goldberg, wrote in May: "If the election were a perfect tie, and the vote fell to me and me alone, I'd probably vote for none other than Donald Trump."

The never-Trump crowd is equal parts warmongers, globalists, and self-important elitist snots like Goldberg.

20 posted on 11/08/2016 9:14:44 AM PST by Flick Lives (Voting Trump. It is not just a vote, it is a chance to burn down the rotten Uniparty.)
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To: servo1969
"The United States of America is not a wreck," he reassures us. "The people who are telling you that it is -- on both sides -- are trying to sell you something. Don't buy it."

Who is the writer that Prager is referring to? The man is an idiot of major proportions and I want to be sure to never read him again.

22 posted on 11/08/2016 9:25:21 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: servo1969

” “On the Supreme Court, Obamacare, the debt, rebuilding the military, the Second Amendment, school choice, abortion, reforming the tax code, re-examining regulation, energy exploration and production, illegal immigration, sanctuary cities, and a host of other issues, the Republican ticket is the antithesis of Clinton/Kaine — and is recognized as such by nearly all progressives.”

Why isn’t all that enough to vote for Trump?”


The answer to that is very simple: EGO. The NeverTrumpers simply cannot admit that they were wrong, or deal with voting for someone that they didn’t back. Well, folks, lots of us swallowed our pride and our preferences, and put aside our opposition, and voted for McCain and Romney. NEITHER was our choice, but the Dem was an insane choice, so we did what was correct in voting against insanity.

Frankly, after the last 2 elections of nominating milquetoast candidates who REFUSED to fight back (and, as a result, lost to the single worst major party candidate up to that time), I’d think that those in the establishment who pushed McCain and Romney on us would have done a bit of reflection and understood that repeating the same action and expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity. I’d have thought that, for at least 1 election, they’d be willing to try the diametric opposite of the last 2, and hire/nominate a fighter. We couldn’t do worse.

For crying out loud, you NeverTrumpers are going to help HILLARY CLINTON get into the highest office in the land! WAKE UP!!! This will be a civilization-ending mistake, particularly building upon 8 years of Obama’s malevolent “leadership.” If she is in the Oval Office next year, then the last Republican President will have been George W. Bush (and he wasn’t particularly great, either - though leagues better than Obama or Clinton).

Prager’s analogy is correct: what you NeverTrumpers are doing is refusing to cut off a gangrenous leg to save the body, because cutting off a leg is a bad thing. Yeah, it is - but there are different levels of bad/evil, and Hillary Clinton is THE WORST possible person to be POTUS, on many levels.

Again, “On the Supreme Court, Obamacare, the debt, rebuilding the military, the Second Amendment, school choice, abortion, reforming the tax code, re-examining regulation, energy exploration and production, illegal immigration, sanctuary cities, and a host of other issues, the Republican ticket is the antithesis of Clinton/Kaine — and is recognized as such by nearly all progressives.” What part of that don’t you understand?


23 posted on 11/08/2016 9:28:06 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: servo1969
Too little, too late, Prager. GFY 😠
29 posted on 11/08/2016 9:55:55 AM PST by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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