Posted on 11/24/2016 8:38:13 AM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1
Amen to your post#34 brother. The movement hasn’t had any leaders in the last thirty years,and what has been done in the name of “conservative” is a bad joke.
“Hopefully this election shows the need to move beyond perpetual arguments over the precise definition of “conservatism,” in favor of practical things that are needed, and that work.”
That has been the focus of Conservative Orthodoxy for 30 years. There are media empires that have been built on this diversion.
But, Conservative Orthodoxy has not had the objective of furthering American interests first since 1988.
Stephen Moore is awesome. He and Laffer and Kudlow and others know how to make America great: unleash capitalism. Not crony capitalism like we would have had under Hillary or Chamber of Commerce capitalism under Jeb and the others. Capitalism means simply getting government out of the way, and greatly reducing the power held by politicians.
I would suggest people read Ian Fletcher on free trade. He gives a conservative take on why what we call free trade does not work & how to replace it.
They never were. They tolerated him at best. As soon as Reagan's 8 years were up. Poppy and the Rockefeller Republicans started to take the party back.
The first crack in the dam was GHW Bush’s “compassionate conservatism,” a major neck-anchor of pandering with far-reaching consequences. Compassion gets you things like participation trophies and safe spaces, not to even mention the belief that someone deserves to take from someone else if they think they need it.
How Donald Trump might have saved Paul Ryan’s job
A Freedom Caucus revolt against the speaker was brewing before Election Day.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/paul-ryan-donald-trump-speaker-231457
Seriously, IMHO Reagan was more Populist than we knew. He stopped in a shot and beer joint once, just to have a cold one, he got Harley's angst and did what he could to help them, and I am sure Freeper-dom can give me and all reading this a bunch more examples that he wasn't about K-Street, Hedge Funds, and bunch of other jobs and things that has all of us with common sense scratching our heads. Wasn't Rush on a screed forever that "the establishment" didn't want anything to do with the great unwashed in fly-over country especially if they were Pro-Life?
We didn't go anywhere since 1988, it was the E-GOP that left / stuck it too us all these years. If anything Trump got it ( or gets it ) and his message clicked.
He didn't win in Macomb County Michigan for nothing...
The Bushes hijacked Reagan’s party and brought in all the neocons (who were RINOs and Democrats in the 70s early 80s). Trump is moving it back closer to the party of Reagan but with a more populist focus on the working class, simply because of the time we live in and demographic makeup of the country and world affairs.
Oh, they’ve not been part of Reagan’s party. The Bushes killed that in 1988.
Sorry no. Those "some" people you describe are consumers. We get TVs, steel, shoes, textiles, widgets, etc at cheaper rates than can be produced in US. That's a win.
US workers need to focus on areas where we have a competitive advantage. Adding "tariffs" or restricting trade, harms all consumers.
The term “conservative” has been so incredibly bastardized over the years its practically lost all meaning when referring to the current GOPe.
Actually it was “the new world order” rhetoric of poppa Bush.
The launch of Globalism as policy.
I have been saying the same thing for decades.
When so many people talk about how our parents' generation made things so great I mention the fact the rest of the industrial world had been destroyed during WWII and we were the only country that had not been touched. That makes it pretty darned easy to make and sell things.
Needless to say, I was usually excoriated for saying something so blasphemous.
““Hopefully this election shows the need to move beyond perpetual arguments over the precise definition of “conservatism,” in favor of practical things that are needed, and that work.”
That has been the focus of Conservative Orthodoxy for 30 years. There are media empires that have been built on this diversion.
But, Conservative Orthodoxy has not had the objective of furthering American interests first since 1988.”
I really came of age as a conservative politically with Reagan’s election in 1980.
I do NOT recall the obsession with precise definitions. Reagan did NOT dwell on it.
The media figures need material, and what better than to use it as part of their programs—how he or she or that policy is NOT precisely fitting the definition.
People get very tired of that same old line. In the case of Levin, he turns me off by lecturing then screaming.
Along comes a practical guy talking about results, not lecture notes and definitions, and bang the public responds.
Just like Reagan did.
You're right about that. He's hardly any more conservative on that than Trump is.
In “A Patriot’s History of the Modern World” I call that period the “golden accident.” I can’t think of any other time in human history where one nation dominated both production and consumption worldwide.
Sorry, yes.Those cheaper “widgets” might be a benefit to YOU, based on your business, but I expect that Americans are going to realize that their prosperity also depends on their neighbors having jobs. We can’t all mow each other’s lawns or tax each other for our incomes, or eek a living out of the Dollar-versus-theYuan trade while productive income evaporates from this country.
You are what has gone wrong with the Republican party in this country. Hopefully, you and Romney and the rest will go the way of the dinosaur. DJT has said he will make America WORK again, and hopefully, he will. Of course, Americans have to want to work, which, as you, evince, may be the problem.
Are you familiar with opic.gov?
No.
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