Posted on 11/24/2016 8:38:13 AM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1
Those are indeed conservative principles.
But then again, the Iron Curtain was also a principle of the USSR, albeit to keep its people in as well as the bourgeoisie out. Trump certainly knows what people voted for more than Moore does.
“That sounds like leftist rhetoric. It is also not what people voted for. What is the game here? “
it isnt leftist. It’s a called actually getting something done other than sitting around looking for conspiracies and “games”.
As far as I can see Trump is actually getting more results since the 8th than all of the big talkers (not doers) on the right have managed in 20 years.
JFTR, the GOP has not been “Reagan’s party” for a very long time. They were barely his party during his presidency.
I was talking about the words “populist working-class”. Not to mention that everyone who attains power speaks of “getting things done”. I don’t want Trump undermined by moles.
I am hoping that Trump sees things differently. What you call “free trade” is the gutting of America. Some people benefit from this, but I care little for their self-interested profiteering at the expense of a great nation.
Oh this is going to make the Mike Levin guy really, really, extra super duper mad!
What he meantws athat the Republican Party is no longer the Step n’ Fetchit for these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwO1onXAaI&list=RDbKwO1onXAaI#t=127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4wU9ZnAKAw
I’ve got no problem with the rebranding. I still know what’s what...
Using hyperbole to make a point.
The Hill, of course, ‘innocently’ uses it to cause trouble.
Mr. Moore, whom I’ve liked and respected a long time, has managed to get this completely wrong:
It is no longer the Bush’s globalist and warmongering party.
President Reagan was neither a globalist, nor a warmonger. Trump has more in common with Reagan than Bush ever did.
The GOPe quit being Reagan’s party a long time ago.
#1 with me....illegals!
There are so many examples to contrast of what Democrats say versus what their policies enacted do.
Middle-out - though they brag about higher wages for the middle class, the middle class has gotten smaller.
GDP growth, gads! There’s been close to 20 trillion in debt/spending racked up, there’s the growth -insufficient funds.
So much government spending and yet fewer private sector jobs.
90 million++ out of the labor force, unemployed no longer counted because there not on unemployment insurance.
Tax policy-there’s got to be enormous amounts of data to show taxing the rich at a higher rate doesn’t cause more growth, just thinking of the Luxury Tax example;
Excerpt
Good Riddance to the Luxury Tax
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1041807729976794664
Starting in 1991, Washington levied a 10% luxury tax on cars valued above $30,000, boats above $100,000, jewelry and furs above $10,000 and private planes above $250,000. Democrats like Ted Kennedy and then-Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell crowed publicly about how the rich would finally be paying their fair share and privately about convincing President George H.W. Bush to renounce his "no new taxes" pledge.
But it wasn't long before even these die-hard class warriors noticed they'd badly missed their mark. The taxes took in $97 million less in their first year than had been projected -- for the simple reason that people were buying a lot fewer of these goods. Boat building, a key industry in Messrs. Mitchell and Kennedy's home states of Maine and Massachusetts, was particularly hard hit. Yacht retailers reported a 77% drop in sales that year, while boat builders estimated layoffs at 25,000.
Just using simple stuff is so easy to quickly refute the economics of the Democrats, but they are rarely challenged.
Reagan was our last “America First” POTUS. And likely the first and only one of the 20th Century.
Where Orthodox Conservatism diverges from the American people’s best interests is what brought this enormous backlash that culminated in the Trump election.
Conservative Orthodoxy has been slain. And while it will take some time to get all the bodies buried, once done we’ll not hear a whimper from them for several decades, at least.
They completely failed on the biggest issues of our era: Immigration/open borders, “Free Trade”, Too big to fail, foreign “adventures”, and the naive focus on “cultural” issues while ignoring the really big Constitutional issues. They completely eviscerated the Treaty Clause, the War Clause, 4th, 10th and 14th Amendments...and too many more to list.
May Conservative Orthodoxy rot in hell.
Because not even one GOP House member has the guts to run against him!
Actually I am not opposed to not being in the “Reagan Party” anymore. Reagan gave us the springboard, he wasn’t the end...he was just someone’s shoulders we stand upon.
Speak for yourself, Mr. Moore. I don’t buy the implication. My values are unchanged and I’m a capitalist favoring competition rather than a hint of cronyism.
Losing continuously since 1989 has put us in a position where we need to lock-down, and hold, so we can rebuild the nation, while pushing back against the Social Justice left.
The “conservative movement” of the past 25 years have been good at talking ourselves to death, but otherwise promoted a SOYA (Sit On Your Ass) attitude among the right, as well as a smugness, where we thought just listening to AM radio was activism, and that the sheer virtue of not being leftists was enough.
Trump is still winning and will for 8 years.
Hopefully this election shows the need to move beyond perpetual arguments over the precise definition of “conservatism,” in favor of practical things that are needed, and that work.
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