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1 posted on 12/04/2016 6:57:03 AM PST by ColdOne
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The dems and the media will start the scare tactics right away.


2 posted on 12/04/2016 6:59:27 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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This emerging “repeal and delay” strategy,... underscores a growing recognition that replacing the health care law will be technically complicated and could be politically explosive.

More gaslighting BS. NYT pushing the tiny minority view as if it is a view shared by a majority.

3 posted on 12/04/2016 7:03:17 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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Health-care industry stocks soared and my investments in them soared when Obamacare was passed.

As I’ve stated before, the ULTIMATE END GAME WITH OBAMACARE with copays and increased costs for people with health insurance, with manadatory purchasing of health insurance, taxes for people without health insurance, increased funding for Medicaid for the poor etc. WAS TO INCREASE CASH FLOW INTO HOSPITALS MANY OF WHICH ARE MERGED INTO BIG CORPORATIONS TO MAKE PROFITS.

Mitt Romney, who originated the first Obamacare program in Massachusetts, said ‘freeloaders’ were showing up at hospitals. The health care industry had costs which needed to be bailed out.

The GOP Establishment doesn’t want to hurt those who were having the money sent their way because of Obamacare.


5 posted on 12/04/2016 7:04:34 AM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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and the law has become deeply embedded in the nation’s health care system, accepted with varying degrees of enthusiasm by consumers, doctors, hospitals, insurance companies and state and local governments.

I see. Everyone is 'enthused', it's just a question of degree.

6 posted on 12/04/2016 7:06:27 AM PST by Right Brother
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As long as the mandate becomes null and void on the date it is “repealed”, I’m happy.

Will the repeal have an “effective date” built into the wording? If not, anything mandated to anyone in the original law becomes unenforceable.


7 posted on 12/04/2016 7:06:28 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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This is bravo sierra. My wife and I are retired. Our supplemental insurance that covers the 80% of the 20% not covered by Medicare just had a premium increase of 31%. And, from what I hear, that is cheap compared to some peoples experience.

Many female retirees who just have portion of their the husband's benefits are not able to even afford supplemental insureance.

8 posted on 12/04/2016 7:08:39 AM PST by Parmy (II don't know how to past the images.)
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There has to be winners and losers in any major transformation, especially something that is as universally influential as health-care funding. I wouldn’t be surprised if this strategy is a means of immediately mollifying those (justifiably) dissatisfied with Obamacare, while delaying the blowback for those adversely affected until after the 2018 mid-terms (at which time the GOP would have at least a mathematical chance to get a filibuster-proof Senate).


9 posted on 12/04/2016 7:09:30 AM PST by Stosh
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Grrrr.
Repeal Obamacare.
Pass targeted narrow fixes for systemic problems (pre-existing conditions, inexpensive catastrophic coverage, individual purchase, allow interstate commerce for insurance).
Done. Market will fix the rest.


13 posted on 12/04/2016 7:12:02 AM PST by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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I dispute the 20 people have gained coverage claim.


14 posted on 12/04/2016 7:13:15 AM PST by exnavy (this tagline under construction, pardon our dust!)
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Follow the money and spot the alligators. There’s so much swamp to drain.
However, if they fail to get that repeal up and running the executive discretion written into the law will allow Trump to completely gut it before they can shore up their place at the trough.


16 posted on 12/04/2016 7:15:45 AM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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Since the law was signed by Mr. Obama in March 2010, 20 million uninsured people have gained coverage,

Yeah, and even more have lost their coverage.

and the law has become deeply embedded in the nation’s health care system,

and the law has become deeply embedded in the nation's tax system. There. Fixed it.

accepted with varying degrees of enthusiasm by consumers, doctors, hospitals, insurance companies and state and local governments.

HA! Talk about putting lipstick on a pig. The NYT also put a lacy bra and crotchless panties on it.

20 posted on 12/04/2016 7:24:16 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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No need for the government to replace squat. Free market will do the job. Health care and health insurance is not the purview of the government.


23 posted on 12/04/2016 7:36:31 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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:..20 million uninsured people have gained coverage...”

and how many of those had to drop it because it was unaffordable?? I know one such person who experienced that scenario. Then he needed emergency surgery and two hospitals refused to accept him. Surgeons were willing to operate and helped find a hospital. The surgery was successful, but he will be paying for the expenses the rest of his life. No longer able to work construction, last year he found a job paying much less, but with health benefits. (fyi - before Obamacare he had a policy which paid health benefits for catastrophic cases - such as this)


24 posted on 12/04/2016 7:37:38 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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If they do, then they are going directly against what Trump promised. Trump said the old would stop and immediately, with no decernible break, the new healthcare would start.

I heard him say it myself. He was very emphatic.


28 posted on 12/04/2016 7:42:34 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!!!)
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The incoming Secretary of HHS has proposed a good plan. Get it on the books at the same time as Obamacare is removed. It may take a year to implement the entire package but do not let Congress fiddle-faddle. The old Congressional trick of letting good legislation wait until it fades away won’t work anymore. The people are awake an watching.

Put close and strict time limits on all bills.


29 posted on 12/04/2016 7:46:13 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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“...accepted with varying degrees of enthusiasm by consumers, doctors, hospitals, insurance companies...”

Has anyone met a consumer who is enthusiastic about Obamacare? Rates for Arizona are set to skyrocket this year. My sister already pays more for her insurance than her house would rent for on the market. My son pays more for insurance than the apartment he rents.

Hard to get enthusiastic about paying more for health insurance than for your home...


31 posted on 12/04/2016 7:53:16 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of infants, ruled by their emotion)
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When did the NYT begin to call “President Barack Hussein Obama”
Mr. O’Bama

My, my, the sky it must be falling~


33 posted on 12/04/2016 7:58:25 AM PST by V K Lee (DJ TRUMP=My Strongest Advocate MAGA; DJT=The Swamp Drainer)
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Fake news.

It will take 2017 to get the whole enchilada done.

Day 1 repeal as of dec 31 2017. Free market as of Jan 1 2018 WITH:
Being able to buy across state lines
Being able to choose additional premium to insure kids up to whatever age you want
Being able to choose additional premium to insure a pre-existing condition

I don’t like my $12500 0bamacare compliant deductible. I’m tired of paying for other peoples kids being covered. If you want your kids covered, you pay.


34 posted on 12/04/2016 8:06:00 AM PST by Principled (...the Supreme Court of the United States favors some laws over others...)
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The “delay” par has a few FReepers up in arms - they think he can wave his magic wand and presto - it’s all done instead of having to phase the changes in to prevent absolute chaos.


36 posted on 12/04/2016 8:23:10 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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I wonder what the deductible is for these 20 million who now have health insurance who didn’t have it before.

In my case, both premiums and deductibles have doubled for the same coverage. I never reach the deductible so I never use the insurance anymore. Everything is out of pocket. Is something different for these people who get subsidies to pay the premium? If not, then they have insurance they never get to use either. How are they better off now than before they had insurance?


37 posted on 12/04/2016 8:23:20 AM PST by HapaxLegamenon
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