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It's not going anywhere soon,
1 posted on 12/06/2016 7:54:16 AM PST by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Electoral college may win the popular vote!


2 posted on 12/06/2016 7:56:07 AM PST by ari-freedom (Chicken Little Concerned for Trump people are almost as annoying as NeverTrumpers!)
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To: GonzoII

The Red zones have overwhelming control over the amendment process. Not going to happen.


3 posted on 12/06/2016 7:56:22 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: GonzoII

This election just about proves why we need the electoral college! Keep the stupid majority from murdering and exploiting the informed and patriotic minority!


4 posted on 12/06/2016 7:58:35 AM PST by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: GonzoII
Sounds like they figured it out. Our forefathers weren't exactly stupid.

One of their unresolved problems of the Constitution was that the United States Supreme Court had no check.

7 posted on 12/06/2016 8:01:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: GonzoII

Its time for a rebirth of 8th grade Civics classes.


8 posted on 12/06/2016 8:01:52 AM PST by Don Corleone (Oil the gun, eat the cannolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: GonzoII

Support for the Electoral College is an indication of widespread disaffection with centralized government and a desire to keep the states relevant and empowered.


10 posted on 12/06/2016 8:02:59 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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Trump was right ...if you take out the illegal vote he would have won the popular vote!!


13 posted on 12/06/2016 8:03:53 AM PST by ontap
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Finally, we have a College that does not have safe zones, that does not have marxist professors, that does not have trigglypuff warriers, that if Ann Coulter wanted to speak to it would be AOK... and the liberals want to get rid of it.


18 posted on 12/06/2016 8:06:52 AM PST by C210N
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To: GonzoII
Right before the election we were told repeatedly that Hillary had a firewall in the electoral college and that Trump had a narrow path to victory. There were no arguments against the electoral college then because they were confident of victory.

Democrats start with a free 104 EVs from California, New York, and Illinois. They don't have to campaign in those states, yet they provide more than a third of the EVs needed to win. If Hillary couldn't win with that advantage the problem is not with the electoral college.
23 posted on 12/06/2016 8:19:54 AM PST by needmorePaine
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Supposedly Trump won 3,084 counties out of 3,141. The counties that HRC won were urban, which gave her a larger over all vote tally which is not how the election is won. This allows for the minority to be equal to the majority. Minority lives matter, don’t they?


26 posted on 12/06/2016 8:27:51 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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Gimme a "C", gimme an "O", gimme an "L"....


29 posted on 12/06/2016 8:37:21 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GonzoII
The problem here is kids aren't taught history anymore. We are a democratic republic, not a democracy that is repeated over and over by almost everyone. A democracy could decide by 50+1% that we will return to a slave owner nation. It was explained to me in grade school as "mob rule".

Then they spent much time using examples how people in Kansas or Rhode Island would NEVER get anything they wanted due to their population. All the politicians would spend their time and money in NY and California with a few visits to NJ or Chicago and Texas.

If you can imagine many of these red states today losing on every issue all the time to ideas common in NYC and San Francisco, soon you can imagine the guns coming off the mantle to demand representation on some issues. Just because people with weird ideas seem to congregate in NYC and Ca. doesn't mean they should have more influence in the rest of the country. Why give Washington DC any representation with over 90% voting Dem every election. They vote Dem to grow government and keep their jobs. If a majority of homosexuals live in Ca. then don't be surprised Dems win by a large margin each election. People in the Bible belt would never get anything they wanted. You could teach the advantages of the EC for a week in public school and fix the misinterpretation of the reason we have electors elected to represent us each Federal election.

In fact, one of the wrong moves we have done over the years is have direct election of Senators. The purpose of states choosing Senators was to have states wishes recognized somewhere. The House was designed to have the people represented by their choice, but the Senate was supposed to have the chore of representing the rights of the state.

The way things are right now, if there is any changes, right or left, the chance of violence is increased. The Constitution is the touchstone we go to to pay homage to the past and the bond made with our Government 227 years ago. It has served us well for a long time and it should be difficult to change. I think all of us at some time or another has taken thought of some invisible "red line" they would NOT cross and be forced to take up arms. I think changing the EC might be one of them as deleting it would relegate the majority of states opinions to the waste basket forever. The only remedy after that would be force and bloodshed.

Looking at other direct democracies throughout history will show they don't last a couple of decades before large changes must redesign the government. A republic allows you to design just laws for everyone, that are approved by a majority, that everyone MUST follow, instead of passing laws like ping pong balls changing in the wind depending on who is elected at the time.

40 posted on 12/06/2016 8:51:32 AM PST by chuckles
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I did some quick checking, and if you eliminate just four counties in California (LA, San Diego, Alameda, and Santa Clara), Trump wins the popular vote nationwide. So there’s an argument for letting California secede from the Union.


46 posted on 12/06/2016 9:20:26 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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Amazing what happens when people wake up and realize they don’t care what the media thinks.


49 posted on 12/06/2016 9:41:22 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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