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The CIA made an extraordinary claim. An extraordinary claim require extraordinary proof.

No one has seen it. In its absence, its simply anti-Russian paranoia. The notion Russia knew how many votes to change in certain states on behalf of Trump and changed those votes is simply too absurd to entertain.

It should be pointed out the recount in WI has uncovered no hacking or serious election tampering of any kind in the works.

High US officials are circulating a conspiracy theory for which no evidence exists. If there was such evidence, it would already have been made public. And of course, by its very nature, a successful hack leaves no trail it ever took place.

The US has interfered in Russia's domestic affairs and is now huffing in outrage about alleged foreign interference in its domestic affairs. This is too funny even for words.

Above all, the risible notion floated the US cannot assure the integrity of its own elections says a great deal more about the motives of those pushing it forward than it does about Russia.

1 posted on 12/12/2016 4:46:47 AM PST by goldstategop
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GOOD.


2 posted on 12/12/2016 4:49:08 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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This is very dangerous what the Fake News Washington Post and NY Times are saying.

This would lead to war with Russia.


3 posted on 12/12/2016 4:51:26 AM PST by Enlightened1
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The CIA made no such claim that I have seen. A leaker that is likely a DNC apparatchik embedded in the CIA leaked the lie to the DNC apparatchik at the Washington post.


4 posted on 12/12/2016 4:53:19 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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Remember when we could trust the U.S. news media but not the Russian?


5 posted on 12/12/2016 4:55:18 AM PST by Savage Beast ( "You can--in fact must--shout 'Fire!' in a crowded theater. It just has to be the truth. J Goldberg)
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The notion Russia knew how many votes to change in certain states on behalf of Trump and changed those votes is simply too absurd to entertain.

Not just certain states, certain counties and in fact, certain precincts!

There are more than 3,000 counties in the United States of America with TENS OF THOUSANDS of polling places (precincts.)

That the Russians would know which counties and which precincts to manipulate to swing the election to Trump is simply laughable.

It's an extraordinary claim by those making it, and an extraordinary claim requires extraordinary evidence to back up the claim.

Thus far, no evidence has been produced. Only unnamed sources. Let's have names, let's see the evidence. Barring any, those making the claim need to simply STFU.

6 posted on 12/12/2016 4:55:21 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I’m sure the Russians have juicier stuff than John Podesta and Chelsea Clintons emails.

Time to drop us some real truth to power
Maybe some videos
Maybe some of Barry’s personal email and chit chat about where he actually was and with who when Benghazi was burning

It seems what the NYPD found in Weiner’s home laptop is still in the hands of someone ...


8 posted on 12/12/2016 4:56:21 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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But Juan and Linda! BiPartisan! CIA! Foreign Influence! NYT & WaPo H8 Trump!


10 posted on 12/12/2016 4:58:03 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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Is believe the Russians before I would believe the demon rats


12 posted on 12/12/2016 4:59:47 AM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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Nobody with a half a brain in his head believes this democrat controlled CIA Bullshiit. The fact that senile McCaine and “Nancy boy” Graham jumped on this bandwagon it giving the story some very wobbly legs.


14 posted on 12/12/2016 5:01:22 AM PST by GoldenPup
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Current Interfering Agency claims Russia interfered with our election.

Must be because Putin wants America to be, once again, the most powerful country on the face of the earth?


18 posted on 12/12/2016 5:06:12 AM PST by RetSignman
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The CIA made an extraordinary claim. An extraordinary claim require extraordinary proof.

IF the CIA made that claim, I find nowhere it officially did so or even commented upon. We have the NYT, Washington Post and a dozen other hangers on leech newsers all spouting the same unproven innuendo and 'claims' by 'unidentified sources.' Oh! I forgot! Some retired CIA goober said we need to redo the election.....yeah. Advice to these interlopers should be "be very careful what you do, you might be getting a Civil War to report on."

19 posted on 12/12/2016 5:08:24 AM PST by Gaffer
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Dem Russian are hung up on the word "enviable"

" Enviable regularity various Russian mass media have been publishing such allegations.
With enviable" regularity many high-ranking US and British Officials have been making such
statements and likewise with enviable regularity none of the absolutely groundless claims has
been propped up by any information, let alone proof," Peskov said.

23 posted on 12/12/2016 5:15:22 AM PST by deport
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Jill Stein spent a lot of money she fundraises to help refute this allegation of Russia influence. Also I think we are a bit too early on this as Congress hasn’t even counted the Electoral Votes.


24 posted on 12/12/2016 5:15:47 AM PST by Degaston
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The Last Days of the Obama administration is making sure that Russia is reduced, economically, politically or by reputation. Obama wanted a war with Russia, and Hillary certainly did and failed to get elected. (IMHO) if Obama could launch a Nuclear attack against Russia before he leaves and get away with it he would. Obama is 3 times the Globalist Bush was with all the stops removed. We have more active duty troops in more nations than Bush had and most are in combat situations. Flagged coffins are still coming home and the “Fascist Press” still will not report on this. The real fake news are the media giants that are controlled by the very corporations that are in conspiracy with the Democrats. Fascism, through the Democrats and the Corps, already control the US

I also believe the real reason for the recounts was to find out why the hacking by the Hillary camp didn’t work.


25 posted on 12/12/2016 5:19:04 AM PST by realcleanguy
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What’s starting to piss me off is drudge. There’s been some good articles refuting this BS but he hasn’t posted any of them. He’s got 4 big bold MSM sources up there now (yahoo, cnn, politico, cbsnews) and a couple more leftish sources (politico, thehill) quoting Bolton on the possibility of false flag.


29 posted on 12/12/2016 5:23:29 AM PST by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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There were blatant attempts to swing the election to one candidate over the other, and those attempts were made by ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and even FOX. Add to that the WP, NYT, LAT, etc., etc.

These outfits failed to deliver the election to Clinton on a silver platter like they thought they could, so now they are trying to blame their failure on someone or something else. First it was #fakenews and now it’s the Russians. I’m sure the Russians had a preference, just like the US has a preference in other elections around the world. But, the biggest and most obvious attempt to jigger the election was internal not external.

All the uproar about #fakenews coming from the likes of CNN, MSNBC, and others is laughable. They are the primary spreaders of fakenews.


32 posted on 12/12/2016 5:27:04 AM PST by euram
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To be accurate, the Washington Post, a house organ of the Democrat Party, (both victim of the hacking, and election loser) reported that sources with the CIA believe that Russia was involved.

TASS, a house organ of the Russian Government, has denied that claim. Additionally, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, has repeatedly denied Russian involvement with his efforts to publicize (very embarrassing) internal Democrat emails.

On "Mornings With Maria" on Fox Business this morning, their panel discussed this. They noted that this is not a unanimous opinion within the intelligence community. Notably, the FBI is among the agencies that are skeptical of this analysis.

Bottom line, nations constantly interfere with each others internal affairs overtly and covertly to support their interests (Which is why I disagree with your notion that this is an "extraordinary claim"). However, the results of foreign interference are almost always uneven and unpredictable. Unless the two nations are greatly unequal in relative power, (Russia in the Caucuses, China in SE Asia, US in Central America) the results are not anywhere near decisive. Too many other factors are in play for Russian (or the converse) interference to have a decisive effect.

33 posted on 12/12/2016 5:28:55 AM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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Hillary just can’t believe with all that voter fraud she had set up that she lost...how could that happen...did people lie to her about it, did people just not set it up, what happened...she knows...it was the Russians...

Yep, they came over here and put ‘thumb drives’ in some of the voting machines, some inserted a ‘disc’ into the voting machines, some loaded buses after buses (and remember we seen those) with illegal immigrants to vote, John McCain told her she had nothing to worry about, he was in control of it...

Well, if they think they are going to have another ‘election’ because John McCain says the Russians did it, then think very hard what your doing...if you think Jill the Shrill got a little over 1% of the vote, Hillary wouldn’t get that much this time...she would beg Jill the Shrill for the 1%...and pay Bernie more money for his percentage...


35 posted on 12/12/2016 5:37:21 AM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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The closest “proof” they have is that practically all malware comes from Russia, from idle hands in decrepit apartment buildings, like basement dwelling millennial losers over here. In fact, that’s where most of the viruses that said U.S. basement dwellers use comes from.

So the “proof” that the Dem/CIA can pull out is probably something resulting from a phish click from Grandma Clinton, telling her she needed to change her Paypal account or telling her she needed to update Windows immediately. Or fake kiddie porn links that tricked Podesta into clicking and installing malware.

It doesn’t help to have an e-mail server in your house with lots of info you want hidden, but being inadequately secured by incompetent IT slackers whose biggest computer accomplishment is a Twitter insult and using Google Translate to transform a Staples Easy button into a Russian reset button.


41 posted on 12/12/2016 5:51:25 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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But John McCain said “it’s clear the Russians interfered”. He must know something everyone else doesn’t. Or he’s full of ____.


44 posted on 12/12/2016 5:55:09 AM PST by McGruff (I don't know what to make of it because it's clear the Russians interfered - John McCain)
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