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Making (Me and) America Sick Again
American Thinker ^ | January 8, 2017 | Clarice Feldman

Posted on 01/08/2017 5:23:35 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

I tell you what I’ve noticed from my own experience. A
couple of years ago, when I was paying my own doctor bills;
I noticed that the bills were reasonable. I paid as I went
by check. THEN, Obamacare went into effect and almost
immediately, with the “government” paying - my bills kept
getting higher and higher. Of course, the doctor and his
office staff had a LOT MORE PAPERWORK and the doctor has to
interact more with his computer screen than with the patient
to comply with the prying eye of “Obamacare”.


41 posted on 01/08/2017 9:07:40 AM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Kaslin

“Munchausen syndrome by proxy (MSBP) is a mental health problem in which a caregiver makes up or causes an illness or injury in a person under his or her care, such as a child, an elderly adult, or a person who has a disability. Because vulnerable people are the victims, MSBP is a form of child abuse or elder abuse.”

I just realized that liberals are in fact perpetrating societal, cultural, and political Munchausen-by-proxy on the entire country. Fully half the population has been affected by it. It explains liberalism to a tee.


42 posted on 01/08/2017 9:13:52 AM PST by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: Twinkie
I remember Rush saying that he doesn't have any insurance either and that he pays his doctors bills with cash and saves a lot of money doing that.

Now of course he hasn't said anything since then if his Doctor had to raise his price to to the increase of the paper load, but I am sure he can afford the increase

43 posted on 01/08/2017 9:24:28 AM PST by Kaslin (Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: meyer

Pain and reality.


44 posted on 01/08/2017 9:26:42 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kaslin

That picture just cries out for some photoshop.

White out the sign, leave the “sick” and reinsert
the words of your choice.

God, what a gaggle of loosners.


45 posted on 01/08/2017 9:27:34 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Kaslin

A bunch of old sick white people with one token black guy.

It’s amazing how unhealthy they look because they get killer health care (why not obamacare if it is so great?) and have somehow pocketed multi-millions of dollars being humble servants of the people?


46 posted on 01/08/2017 9:34:20 AM PST by Leep (Stronger without her!)
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To: Kaslin
What? "Make America SICK again"!!??

America has already been deathly sick for the past eight years. We don't need any more Obamic Plague, thank you.

47 posted on 01/08/2017 11:06:21 AM PST by Gritty (Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving. - Iowahawk)
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To: Kaslin
To Pelosi and all the other stinking Democrats:

You'll have to see what President Trump does after January 20th, 2017, to know what will become of health care. After all, isn't that more or less what you said when the Democrats passed Obamacare without Republican support?

Without reading it, you'll have to pass the new health care acts, in order to see what's in it. F U Nancy!

48 posted on 01/08/2017 3:09:15 PM PST by roadcat
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To: cba123
I think however, Trump seems to have the good approach.

What specifically do you like about it?

49 posted on 01/08/2017 3:13:08 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: exDemMom
We also need tort reform...

About half the states have already passed tort reform and there is zero evidence that it has reduced health-care premiums in any of them. So that't not a solution to Obamacare's costs.

50 posted on 01/08/2017 3:15:11 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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I would ask exactly what they passed, regardless of what they called it.

Most politicians are lawyers. For the most part, they will not pass anything that threatens lawyer’s incomes. Lawyers might have passed something they called “tort reform” but really wasn’t.

It would be analogous to when there was a call to deregulate utilities in CA (in the 1990s). The lawyer-politicians made a big show out of “deregulating”—but in reality, they deregulated nothing. All they did was institute a new and different set of regulations and called it “deregulation.” And then, when the alternate regulation didn’t work to lower prices and so forth, they gloated that deregulation doesn’t work.

It also would be analagous to immigration reform. The people want immigration, especially illegal immigration, curbed. So the lawyer-politicians think of all kinds of goodies and benefits to give to illegal aliens, and call it “immigration reform.”

I could go on and on, but I think you probably get the point. What we, the people, call reform is usually an excuse for lawyer-politicians to write more laws benefiting themselves. They don’t institute the reforms that the people actually want.


51 posted on 01/08/2017 4:27:27 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
I would ask exactly what they passed, regardless of what they called it.

It varied from state to state of course but every one I'm aware of involved capping damages for malpractice cases to one extent or another. In every case it did reduce malpractice insurance premiums in the state but there is no evidence that it reduced healthcare insurance premiums anywhere.

52 posted on 01/08/2017 4:42:34 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: meyer

I live in the Philippines. The poor don’t get free health care. Some are provided PhilHealth, the Philippines’ equivalent of our Medicaid which the the local government’s/NGO’s pay the premium for them, (about $5.00 a month including dependents of the policy holder, which also covers the parents of the policy holder). However, PhilHealth does not cover all of the hospital cost and the patient is required to pay the balance. Some hospitals will accept the PhilHealth payments as payment in full, but are not required to do so.

Until a few years ago the hospital could, and frequently did refuse to allow the patient to leave the hospital, resulting in the bill to increase daily. This was ended by a law making it a crime to deny discharge of patients in public wards.

But semi-private and private room patients could still be held “hostage” by the hospital until the full bill is paid.

Frequently, especially in cases of high cost care cases, the patient will be required to pay the hospital bill every few days in order to get continued care.

Also, hospitals and clinics are required to post the cost of all hospital/clinic procedures. Along with that, almost all patients are required to pay in advance for all procedures prior to the procedures being performed, (x-ray/lab test/MRI/Cat-scans, pharmaceuticals, etc.). The exception is for Health insurance patients, These procedures are added to the final hospital bill and paid by the insurance co., (prior to a patient being admitted under private insurance the hospital has to negotiate the estimated cost of the care to be provided and the insurance co. frequently must advance the estimated cost for the patient’s care.

Doctor’s bills are separate from the hospital bill but are added to the hospital bill for tax collection purposes, (the hospital is required to collect the 12% VAT from the doctor’s bill when paid by the patient at the time of discharge). The general rule for doctor’s services is that the doctor will give the patient a quote for his/her services and normally will not exceed the quote.

Some of these rules and policies should be considered for the U.S.


53 posted on 01/08/2017 7:32:29 PM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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