Posted on 01/09/2017 2:36:31 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
Let me calm your nerves.
Whatever he takes from the US taxpayer pales in comparison to the billions the Arabs guaranteed him for his humiliations of Israel.
It remains as important as ever that all Americans learn the truth.
Missing the point. Trump’s mother became a citizen prior to his birth. Obama’s father remained a Kenyan all his life. If you want to be honest when mentioning the foreign birth of these two individuals’ parents, that fact is entirely pertinent.
B$. The document posted on the internet by the Obama administration is a fraud, period.
DW, do you know the Bible? If you do, then you’re aware that only God knows the future. Sometimes God reveals part of the future to a prophet, and in that case the prophet also has certain, sure knowledge of at least some future events. Otherwise, only God knows with certitude.
It may ultimately turn out that God intends for Obama to get away with his biggest lies in this life, and not answer for them until he stands before the throne of Judgement. In that case, the scenario you foretold is the correct one.
Otoh, it may be that God has ordained a different outcome. He may, instead, intend for Obama’s lies to be exposed much sooner. In that case they will be, and no amount of corruption, cover-up or apathy can stop it. When God decides a thing will happen, no human agency can thwart it/Him.
The point is, unless you are claiming a revealed word, you/1we don’t know. The Bible is very clear on this issue: God alone knows the future. This being so, I hope you will join me in waiting to see what God has in store. It may surprise us both.
If you’re right then it would have been a good idea to turn the evidence of fraud (a crime) over to a prosecuting attorney for a grand jury to investigate. Perhaps there could have been an indictment. Or if not to a prosecutor, at least to an investigative committee of the House of Representatives (Committeee on Oversight and Government Reform).
That never happened and the PDF image remains up on the whitehouse.gov web site to ths day.
What helped Obama politically is that the state of Hawaii issued official statements verifying the authenticity and accuracy of the whitehouse.gov PDF
http://archive.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf
It also benefitted Obama for reelection that Mitt Romney then released a PDF of his birth certificate that says “VOID” on it four times and shows that his father was born in Mexico.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-campaign-romney-birth-certificate-idUSBRE84S1GF20120529
If only that point of view has resonated with Republican Governors or state’s Chief Election Officials or state legislators or judges or members of Congress...but alas.
H. Brook Paige v. James Condos, Secretary of State of Vermont and President Barack Obama: Robert R. Bent, Presiding Judge
“While the court has no doubt at this point that Emmerich de Vattel’s treatise The Law of Nations was a work of significant value to the founding fathers, the court does not conclude that his phrase–“The natives, or natural born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”–has constitutional significance or that his use of “parents” in the plural has particular significance. Thus far, no judicial decision has adopted such logic in connection with this or any related issues. In fact, the most comprehensive decision on the topic, Ankeny v. Governor of Indiana, examines the historical basis of the use of the phrase, including the English common law in effect at the time of independence, and concludes that the expression “natural born Citizen” is not dependent on the nationality of the parents but reflects the status of a person born into citizenship instead of having citizenship subsequently bestowed. The distinction is eminently logical.”—Vermont Superior Court, November 14, 2012
“Obama Receives Israel’s Highest Honor”
President given Award of Distinction by Peres as climax to whirlwind visit
http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/obama-highest-honor.php
Still missing the point. Once more, slowly. If you say two things are alike, but there is a fundamental difference, if you want to be honest you’ll point it out. For example. I could say of two hypothetical people that they were respectively born to very young mothers who pretended, as the babies matured, to be their sisters. That might all be true, but if one became a productive adult and the other became a serial killer, that is also germane. In fact, without that detail, the comparison is pointless.
Trump’s mother migrated to America to become a US citizen—which she did. She left Scotland behind, and pledged allegiance to her adopted country.
Obama’s father came to the US to suck up all the freebies he could get. He never intended to give anything back; he was first and always an America-hating Kenyan.
You don’t have to like those facts but you can’t change them. They are what they are. If you could see past shilling for Obama for even a few seconds, you’d see these facts are relevant regardless of what the court system you worship says.
Do you remember the governor that ran on the promise he would reveal the birth certificate? Yet when the doper was elected he had to admit that no birth certificate could be found.
Do you remember that the 2002-2010 Republican Hawaii Governor who preceeded Democrat Neil Abercrombie had no trouble getting her staff to find the birth certificate?
“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. It’s been established. He was born here.” —[former] Governor Linda Lingle (R-HI)
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html
Perhaps the reason that Dumbocrat Abercrombie had trouble finding it is because, according to Fox News, it had been moved from the archives to the office safe of the state registrar for security reasons.
“Obama birth certificate moved to a more secure location months ago”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/
In any event, it would have been nice if a committee of the House of Representatives had issued a congressional subpoena for the original birth certificate and held Hawaii officials in Contempt of Congress if they didn’t produce it.
Here’s the list under Hawaii law of who is entitled to inspect or receive a copy of a birth certificate:
(1) The registrant;
(2) The spouse of the registrant;
(3) A parent of the registrant;
(4) A descendant of the registrant;
(5) A person having a common ancestor with the registrant;
(6) A legal guardian of the registrant;
(7) A person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;
(8) A personal representative of the registrant’s estate;
(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
(10) Adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and who need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child’s natural or legal parents;
(11) A person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;
(12) A person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and
(13) A person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.
The one that was always the most interesting to me was number 5, “a person having a common ancestor with the registrant.” It turns out that Barack Obama shares a common ancestor with a conservative Republican, Tea Party endorsed former candidate for the U.S. Senate from Kansas, a radiologist hamed Dr. Milton R. Wolf. Dr. Wolf and Obama are cousins and their common ancestor is Thomas Creekmore McCurry (1850–1939), President Obama’s great-great-grandfather, and Wolf’s great-grandfather. Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, was Wolf’s mother’s first cousin. Obama’s mother and Wolf’s mother were friends in Wichita, Kansas, where Stanley Ann Dunham, was born and spent part of her childhood.
Dr. Wolf, who ran on a platfom of repealing the Affordable Care Act is eligible to inspect or receive a copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate under the provisions of Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2006/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.HTM
According to several court rulings, Barack Obama qualifies as a natural born citizen because he was born in the United States and was born without diplomatic immunity nor was he born to a member of a foreign occupying military.
No court has ever ruled that Obama’s father not being a U.S.. citizen is disqualifying. No action of Congress has been taken to disqualify him. Both Houses send him bills to sign into law and the Senate has confirmed hundreds of his appointees.
The category I listed was presidents with foreign born parents. The category you are discussing is presidents with a foreign born parent whose parent became a naturalized U.S. citizen.
Idk whose post you are responding to, but it’s not mine. Is it party time, by any chance, at NG’s place?
Do you think the reason why the left is so apoplectic about Trump is that they know as President that he’ll have access to information that absolutely shows Obama was ineligible to be President?
No I don’t think that.
President Trump will not have access to state records in Hawaii or college records in California, New York and Massachusetts.
My response was to post 130.
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