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Vaccinations: Who Calls the Shots?
The New American ^ | 13 May 2016 | Liza Greve

Posted on 01/13/2017 7:54:34 AM PST by VitacoreVision

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For our own good and the good of everyone else in the country, legislators want to mandate that kids get vaccines — despite parents’ wishes. But is this actually “good”? By Liza Greve
1 posted on 01/13/2017 7:54:34 AM PST by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

I notice that it is generally REPUBLICANS who are looking to leap to the forefront and take away parental and individual rights.


2 posted on 01/13/2017 7:56:54 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It’s the neocons.
There is an effort to throw them out of the party leadership.

Help that happen.


3 posted on 01/13/2017 8:05:51 AM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: MrEdd

Rick Perry and the Gardisil affair taught me all I need to know about that.


4 posted on 01/13/2017 8:08:36 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: VitacoreVision
Even if they spread out the 70 vaccines over a much longer time frame, it would be healthier.

My daughters are doing this with their kids and had to look everywhere to find a doctor who was OK with it. Most want to do them all at once, collect a fee and be done with it.

5 posted on 01/13/2017 8:14:50 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Only the fascist, Bush McCain Graham wing is anti individual rights.


6 posted on 01/13/2017 8:15:13 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

La Raza Rick the Texas Islamist is truly the turd that just keeps on stinking.


7 posted on 01/13/2017 8:17:07 AM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: VitacoreVision

Get the vaccines. It is pathetic that we are seeing resurgence of things long ago solved. Yes, I know that many are because of illegal aliens, but still, vaccines work and save lives, not getting them puts kids and everyone at risk. For the public good, until there is credible reason to skip a vaccine, I am all for requiring them. I don’t want my kid sick because some other kid didn’t get their vaccine. I also don’t want my taxes paying for that sick kid when the vaccine could have prevented it. And what about the guilt of the parent who let their kids and others get sick because the skipped a vaccine?


8 posted on 01/13/2017 8:21:07 AM PST by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp: Replace Ryan & McConnell; Primary Lyn' Ted and others.)
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To: freedomfiter2

We have a similar thing going on here in Pittsburgh.

The City of Pittsburgh water system (which does not even service the entire city) hired a private company to manage the water plant. They apparently scrooood-up and made a chemistry change without getting state DEP approval, which caused some incidents on old lead pipes similar to what happened in Flint.

Yesterday the Allegheny County Health Department ordered MANDATORY lead testing for EVERY child in the county under Age 3.

That’s EVERY child in a county of 1.2 million, 80% of whom do not even live in the affected areas. Whether their parents agree or not.

This is once again all about building bureaucrat power and justifying ever-larger budgets.


9 posted on 01/13/2017 8:22:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

How do you figure that? Weve been thru 8 yrs of liberalism unchecked and they seem to have at least as much appetite as the GOP for enslaving us. So, it seems to not be as much a party Thing as elitist attitude. Just my take...


10 posted on 01/13/2017 8:22:21 AM PST by 556x45
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

We also had our kid’s vaccine’s spread out over time. Our doctor even suggested it. Bottom line, though, is they got their vaccines.


11 posted on 01/13/2017 8:22:24 AM PST by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp: Replace Ryan & McConnell; Primary Lyn' Ted and others.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Brilliant, thorough article.

No FReeper should be pro mandatory government vaccine. They need to reread both this article and the US Constitution.


12 posted on 01/13/2017 8:23:20 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: VitacoreVision

There are much better areas for assertion of parental rights, such as what is being taught in fhe public schools. Questions for the vaccine objectors: What if your kid caught the disease and spread it to somebody else? If your kid did spread the disease to somebody elae, would you approve of that somebody-else suing you for damages?


13 posted on 01/13/2017 8:23:41 AM PST by Socon-Econ
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To: Reno89519

You didn’t read the article.

Read the article, and refute anything USING THE ARTICLE as your point of reference. Even if you say the article is bunk, use it and explain your points.

Your post shows you didn’t read it, and you do not understand the actual science.


14 posted on 01/13/2017 8:25:12 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Socon-Econ

Going to repeat what I said above to someone else who is refuting without reading or understanding:

You didn’t read the article.

Read the article, and refute anything USING THE ARTICLE as your point of reference. Even if you say the article is bunk, use it and explain your points.

Your post shows you didn’t read it, and you do not understand the actual science.


15 posted on 01/13/2017 8:26:04 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: VitacoreVision; All
Thank you for referencing that article VitacoreVision. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

For a starting point concerning who calls the shots, since the states have never expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for INTRAstate healthcare purposes, vaccination policy starts with the states.

And if the states decide that the feds should be involved in vaccination policy then the states must appropriately amend the Constitution.

16 posted on 01/13/2017 8:31:47 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Yaelle

Excellent response to non readers of the excellent article. Knee jerk morons tell everyone else to get in line. The article is too long, has too much science and facts for the lower IQ’d among us.


17 posted on 01/13/2017 9:00:43 AM PST by CaptainPhilFan ($)
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To: VitacoreVision

I disagree. Understand that I am pro-vaccine personally, but I dont want to give the government the right to FORCE or COERCE anyone to take medicine. It is the nose under the tent.

Ask yourself this, If the government can force vaccines, why cant it force:

- Guardasil on little girls
- ADHD meds on active little boys
- Prozac on members of those it considers undesirable
- abortions

Secondly, there are those who have medical reasons for not receiving vaccines. I was one. I did not get my small pox vaccine till I joined the Army because of a skin condition. My family considered the risks and decided against the vaccine.

That is what freedom is all about. Making choices and accepting the risks of those choices.


18 posted on 01/13/2017 9:09:18 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Yaelle

I don’t need or want to read any BS about people using rights as excuse to skip vaccinations. It is pretty simple. Get the vaccinations! Find a real doctor anywhere that says different, there are none. Period.


19 posted on 01/13/2017 9:15:07 AM PST by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp: Replace Ryan & McConnell; Primary Lyn' Ted and others.)
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To: Yaelle

I found a great interview with Dr. Paul Thomas this morning, linked here. https://soundcloud.com/user-507883655/6-dr-paul-thomas-interview-how-to-end-the-autism-epidemic

Here is an excerpt of an article by Jennifer Margulis co author of Dr. Thomas book The Vaccine Friendly Plan
http://jennifermargulis.net/blog/2016/12/medical-doctors-concerned-we-are-giving-americas-children-too-many-vaccines-too-soon/

“Dr. Paul Thomas, M.D., my co-author and a pediatrician with over 13,000 children in his practice in Portland, Oregon, has noticed that the children who are the most vaccinated in his practice are also the least healthy.

“As unpopular as this observation might be, my unvaccinated children are by far the healthiest.” –Dr. Paul Thomas, M.D.

Anyone who would smugly say, “The science is clear” or “The science is settled” profoundly misunderstands what science is. Science is a process of inquiry. Any scientific knowledge that any given generation has is always subject to scrutiny. Science is never settled.

We keep talking about vaccines being a potential trigger for autism because we keep seeing American children being harmed by our current CDC vaccine schedule. If the harm weren’t happening, we would not be having this conversation.

Is it the glutathione-depleting acetaminophen given before and after vaccination that is triggering autism?

Is it the cumulative toxic exposure, a negative synergy between vaccine ingredients?

Is the depleted microbiome because of the overuse of antibiotics playing a role?

Is there an in utero assault with ultrasound exposure and a trigger pulled by aluminum in the hepatitis B vaccine given at birth?

The honest truth is that we simply don’t know. But we can’t find out if we don’t ask the right questions. With 1 in 45 children diagnosed with autism today, we are in the midst of a national health crisis that can no longer be ignored.”


20 posted on 01/13/2017 9:22:46 AM PST by azkathy (We the people are FED UP-pun intended!!!)
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