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Will Racism End When Old Bigots Die?
NPR ^ | January 14, 2017 | LEAH DONNELLA Twitter

Posted on 01/14/2017 4:24:31 PM PST by nickcarraway

Shelly Fields is a 46-year-old white woman living in Richton Park, a racially diverse Chicago suburb. She says she's raised her four daughters, who are biracial, to see people of all races as equal, just as her parents raised her. Fields doesn't think that racism will ever disappear completely, but she's hopeful that it lessens with each passing generation.

"The more biracial children there are, the more equality we see," Fields said. "The more people of color we see in positions of power – it will help to change the way people see race."

Her oldest daughter, Summer, is a 22-year-old graduate of the University of Chicago. When she was in high school, Summer probably would have agreed that race relations were looking up. The '90s and early 2000s were "a post-racial fantasy time" in Richton Park, Summer said. "Being firmly in the middle of the Obama era – it [was] a moment of progress. It was validating."

Now, as the Obama era ends, she is of the mind that racism isn't going anywhere.

"Racism always evolves, and will find a way," Summer said.

The question that Shelly and Summer are tackling has been posed in many forms for many generations. Will racism just die off with old bigots? Does the fate of race relations lie with the children?

That idea has been milling about the public psyche for generations. It lives in that famous (if oft-decontextualized) line: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Martin Luther King, Jr. said it eloquently in his "I Have a Dream" speech, but we've heard that sentiment through the ages, from Thomas Jefferson to Oprah Winfrey. The belief that our children's generation will be less racist gets repeated by teachers, parents, politicians and activists. And understandably so. Much of American culture is predicated on the idea that we can create a better future for our progeny, instilling in them values that we as a nation have often failed to uphold.

Enlarge this image Shelly and Summer Fields. Courtesy of Summer Fields In our small, very unscientific survey last month, Code Switch heard that conviction. We also heard just the opposite. We wanted to know if beliefs about the future of racism were held consistently in families from generation to generation. Here's what we asked in our December callout: Will racism fade away when old bigots die?

Of the 120 or so people who responded, more than two-thirds said they did not think the next generation would usher out racism. And nearly the same number thought their answer would differ from their parents or grandparents. (There's reason to think, given some more scientific national research, that there's not really much difference between generations when it comes to racial beliefs.)

But let's get back to the Fields family. Summer Fields responded to our survey. She had no qualms saying that racism would be with us for the long run. She didn't know exactly what her mom would say, but she was pretty sure it wouldn't be that.

Here's what Shelly said: "The further we get away from the idea that one skin color or race is better than the other, the better. Past generations had these ideas, and they were spread to the next generation and the next."

Shelly learned about race from her parents. When she was growing up, she said, they taught her never to judge other people based on skin color. That didn't stop them from being cautious when she began dating outside her race and eventually decided to start a family with a black man.

"Once [my mother] found out I was pregnant, when it hit close to home, it was a different story," Shelly said. "She was afraid ... She said, 'You're gonna have a baby with dark skin and kinky hair.'

"'She was afraid because she didn't know [what to expect]. And I really didn't know either."

But Shelly said that once her daughters were born, her parents were able to see firsthand that there was nothing to worry about. (She lives right behind her parents, and they've been heavily involved in each other's lives.) She said that her neighborhood has always been racially mixed, and that her family has never really experienced racism there. That, she said, helped her parents move past some of their fears and double down on their belief that people of all races should be treated equally.

Is It Racist To Call Someone 'Racist'? CODE SWITCH Is It Racist To Call Someone 'Racist'? "They taught that to my daughters," Shelly said. "They and I showed my daughters, and I'm hoping that they'll show their daughters and sons."

Summer isn't quite as hopeful. As a high schooler, being surrounded by a mix of black, white, and multiracial classmates, it was possible for her to believe in a more uplifting future. After arriving at the University of Chicago, where less than five percent of the student body was black, her perspective changed. She started learning about things like race theory in her classes. The overwhelmingly white environment also affected how she thought of herself; her identity suddenly felt more political.

She found herself engaging and disagreeing more with her mom's ideas about race. They've argued over things like trigger warnings and safe spaces (her mom says that's not how the real world works) and about how to self-identify. Summer thought of herself as biracial until she went to college. When she started referring to herself as a black woman, that became another point of contention.

"My mom doesn't understand," she said. "She feels like that's an affront to her."

While Shelly knows racism won't disappear ("We still have families that teach the same things they were taught about judging people based on race," she said,) she holds onto some optimism.

Summer's prognosis is a little bleaker.

"Our country's whole identity is founded on the pillaging and murder of Native people and chattel slavery," she said. It would help to acknowledge that, she said. She's just not sure democracy could handle it.

"For us to call that out and admit it would be the first step," Summer said. "But it would destroy the whole project."

That generational dissonance seemed to be a common thread among the people we surveyed. We heard from a South Asian college student in Florida who said that because her parents chose to come to the United States, they're more invested in the notion that America is a land of opportunity for all people. So they don't get why so many people of color in this country fear police or don't work their way out of poverty.

My mom isn't racist ... but she doesn't understand institutional racism. I have an understanding of [American] history that my parents don't. University of Florida student "My mom isn't racist ... but she doesn't understand institutional racism," she said. "I have an understanding of [American] history that my parents don't."

We also heard from a white elementary school teacher in New Jersey who's hopeful because his white students idolize musicians and athletes of color. But he said his parents think the culture gaps between races are too large to ever overcome. At one point, he spoke to them about moving from his largely white neighborhood into one that was racially mixed. He thought he'd be comfortable there.

Their response?

"No, you wouldn't."

Much of the available public polling data suggests that millennials like the schoolteacher are not as different from Generation Xers or Baby Boomers as they might think. Kathleen Weldon, communications director at the Roper Center for Public Opinion Research at Cornell University, said millennials tend to say they are more optimistic about race relations than their parents, and more broadly accepting of things like interracial friendships and marriage.

But when questioned about specific policy issues tied to race, she said, millennials sound a lot like their elders. They don't "have different views on the [George] Zimmerman case, aren't more aware of the disproportionate effect of HIV on the black community, are not more likely to think government should play a major role in the social and economic position of blacks, and are no more [or less] likely to think the [Voting Rights Act] is still necessary," Weldon said.

"In other words, when it comes to perceptions and policy around race in the U.S., young Americans don't look much different from older ones."

Jocelyn Wilks and her father, Elijah, expected their views to diverge significantly when it came to race and racism. But though they come from different generations, were born in different parts of the country, and even have different ideas of what they'll call racism, their outlook is pretty similar.

As a black man born in Mississippi in the early 1960s, Elijah lived with state-sponsored racism. He was in fourth grade when his school integrated. When he was in high school, there was a black homecoming court and a white homecoming court, a black "Mr. and Miss High School" and a white "Mr. and Miss High School."

Enlarge this image Jocelyn and Elijah Wilks Courtesy of Jocelyn Wilks Those experiences inform his thinking about race. His daughter, he said, formed her opinions another way.

"I've never taught [Jocelyn] about racism," Elijah said. "I never had those conversations with her. I let her grow up and develop her own opinion of things. That was never taught in the home when I was growing up and I didn't teach her that way."

Another difference between father and daughter, he said, is geographic. He was raised in Mississippi; Jocelyn was born and raised in San Antonio.

"Where I grew up, you were either black or white," Elijah said. "In San Antonio, it's predominantly Hispanic, and whites and blacks are minorities ... It makes a huge difference."

Jocelyn is a 28-year-old accounting student who lives just north of San Antonio. Her experience teaching pre-school helped convince her that racism was going nowhere fast. During that time, Jocelyn heard a lot of nonsense from her students, like one boy who, after losing a basketball game, said his opponent's "genes were made to jump." Jocelyn knew the children were getting those ideas from somewhere.

"When you're 9 or 10 you can't call bull on your parents," she said. "You take those racist statements as facts. ...

"Kids pick up things that you don't teach them. So if Mom treats a person of color poorly, the kid sees that and picks it up, because that's their model."

Jocelyn said she and her dad have different ideas of what's worth labeling racism. Born in a harsher time, his threshold, she said, is higher.

"It won't be the small slights that people in my generation find to be racist," she said. "He thinks things are getting better, and they are better from when he was growing up. But it's not the better that we're looking for. He wouldn't look at gentrification or housing segregation and say, 'They're doing that on purpose, this is racist.' It would be a church shooting, and he'd [say], 'That's a hate crime.'

"Dad says, 'It's not fair that these people are getting killed and no one's going to jail for it.' And I say, 'It's not fair, if your name is Shaniqua, that you have to work 15 times harder to get a job than anybody else.'"

But when they come back to that question that has been passed down through the generations – Will racism fade away when old bigots die? – Elijah and Jocelyn sound almost identical.

Father: "As new generations come into existence, it will be lesser and lesser, but I don't know if it will ever end."

Daughter: "As long as there's racism in this generation, there's going to be racism in the next generation. It might dwindle, but it won't disappear."


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1 posted on 01/14/2017 4:24:31 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Racism will end when behavior of Africans becomes civilized. People don’t leave their hoods because of color.


2 posted on 01/14/2017 4:26:36 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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Blacks are the most racist demographic since the Civil War and there’s no sign of improvement. They declared war on us 20 years ago and we still haven’t admitted it.


3 posted on 01/14/2017 4:28:42 PM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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So Shelly, tell us how well received you’ve been received by the black community, esp black females, for having biracial kids? Why, just the other night I biracial female said she wasn’t accepted by “the black girls” becoz to them “She was white”

How come black racism isn’t mentioned? Oh btw, EVERY generation thinks optimistically about race when it is young and naive, and has little “skin in the game” no pun intended But wait until certain issues rear their ugly head and sure enough, they’ll find out


4 posted on 01/14/2017 4:30:02 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Liberalism is a mental disorder" On FULL Display NOW BOYCOTT PepsiCO Kellogg's)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I think you nailed it right there.

Honestly, I believe a large portion of the AA community would welcome a race war. This despite the wisdom of great Americans like Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Dr. Ben Carson, and Sheriff David Clarke.

Black America desperately needs a moment of clarity ... but I don’t see this happening as long as there’s so much money to be made by promoting fear and hatred.


5 posted on 01/14/2017 4:30:09 PM PST by Nothingburger
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To: nickcarraway
Will Racism End When Old Bigots Die?

No. Racism as used by the people who would get published by NPR is disagreement with the Anointed Ones on anything at all.

6 posted on 01/14/2017 4:30:44 PM PST by arthurus
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She says she's raised her four daughters, who are biracial, to see people of all races as equal, just as her parents raised her.

All by herself...

7 posted on 01/14/2017 4:32:06 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: nickcarraway

What a load of tap dancing by the writer....it doesn’t state unequivocally that Shelly’s husband is still around. It also doesn’t differentiate between ‘starting a family’ and getting and staying married.

Is it still ‘starting’ a family after the first child is born? The second? The third?

As for power, we’ve had a black president ie no higher position of power. He race baited at every opportunity. So much for improvement.


8 posted on 01/14/2017 4:32:13 PM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends.)
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Black America desperately needs a moment of clarity ... but I don’t see this happening as long as there’s so much money to be made by promoting fear and hatred.

If it's ever going to change, it will be because of Trump being in the White House. This is a historical opportunity, that frankly would not happen with any other politician.

9 posted on 01/14/2017 4:32:21 PM PST by dfwgator
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The ‘90s and early 2000s were “a post-racial fantasy time” in Richton Park, Summer said. “Being firmly in the middle of the Obama era – it [was] a moment of progress. It was validating.”

Gal doesn’t know her history, that was Clinton and Bush era. Hussein didn’t show up til 2009.

Affirmative Action baby at University of Chicago? I thought they disavowed that behavior


10 posted on 01/14/2017 4:32:22 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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Let me know when the Fields family moves to the Congo.

Then we’ll know who the real racists are.


11 posted on 01/14/2017 4:32:43 PM PST by Regulator
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“As a high schooler, being surrounded by a mix of black, white, and multiracial classmates, it was possible for her to believe in a more uplifting future. After arriving at the University of Chicago, where less than five percent of the student body was black, her perspective changed. She started learning about things like race theory in her classes.”

They are quite upfront about the brainwash.


12 posted on 01/14/2017 4:33:01 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: dfwgator

I most certainly hope you’re right.


13 posted on 01/14/2017 4:33:56 PM PST by Nothingburger
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To: nickcarraway

Racism will die when the whites have been bred out of existence. The libs are well on their way.


14 posted on 01/14/2017 4:34:04 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Get used to it - President Donald J. Trump)
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Racism and bigotry will never end......It's hard wired human behavior to think that your family and heritage is better than others regardless of whatever race or nationality you may be.........That's just natural.

What isn't natural is the race baiters and profiteers who make a living out of racist claims and foment the hostilities between the races.

15 posted on 01/14/2017 4:35:35 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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As long as government forms ask what race people identify with, then the government will always use the subject of race as a tool to divide the people.


16 posted on 01/14/2017 4:37:28 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: nickcarraway

Like the man said. It’s ok to be critical of inferior subcultures that do not muster the wherewith all to function as worthwhile members of American society.

Such critical thought is not racist


17 posted on 01/14/2017 4:37:36 PM PST by Thibodeaux (the end of Obama plague is near........ rejoice)
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To: nickcarraway

Lunacy like this will end when NPR dies.


18 posted on 01/14/2017 4:37:36 PM PST by Ciaphas Cain (The choice to be stupid is not a conviction I am obligated to respect.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
It's hard wired human behavior to think that your family and heritage is better than others regardless of whatever race or nationality you may be

I would state it more as our heritage is better for us. Others have their own heritage and should be able to embrace it as well. That's when people can truly live in harmony, but not when people try to force us to abandon our heritage.

19 posted on 01/14/2017 4:38:55 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

Will liberal lunacy end when NPR dies?


20 posted on 01/14/2017 4:39:15 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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