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On Trial: There is Evidence to Back (At Least Some of) Trump’s Illegal Voting Claims
Law Newz ^ | Jan. 25, 2017 | Robert Barnes, Esq.

Posted on 01/25/2017 7:38:54 AM PST by libstripper

CNN’s Jake Tapper, and many other pundits, assert there is “no evidence” to support Trump’s belief about a large number of illegal votes cast in the election. As a trial lawyer, our method of assessing the factual basis of a claim differs from some in the press: what would admissible evidence look like to support each side of a claim if tried to a jury under the rules of evidence? Answer? Trump actually has some evidence on his side.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; illegals; votefraud; voterfraud
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Trump has a strong case for his charges about massive illegal voting, as seen in this article.
1 posted on 01/25/2017 7:38:54 AM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper
From the article:

The best study on the subject — a study that meets the Daubert standards for admissible evidence in a jury trial in a legal courtroom — provides substantial evidence that non-citizen voting alone likely reached over a million in this election. A trio of well-regarded scholars used scientifically approved methods to study the question of non-citizen voting in federal elections. The result of their study published in one of the best-regarded peer-review political science journals, Electoral Studies. The evidence from their study suggested upwards of 10% of non-citizens voted in 2008; given the issues implicated in this election, a higher number would be a reasonable inference for a jury to conclude. Given the increase in non-citizen members of the population, the same study’s conclusions would project out to millions of illegal votes from non-citizen voters in this election.

2 posted on 01/25/2017 7:44:28 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The Left has the temperament of a squealing pig.)
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To: Louis Foxwell; LucyT; Whenifhow

Thanks, Louis, for the info!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3517345/posts?page=2#2

Ping to research showing millions of illegals voted in Nov.

Backs up what President Trump said.

MAGA!!!


3 posted on 01/25/2017 7:50:58 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: libstripper

There is much more evidence of voter fraud than Russian interference in the election.


4 posted on 01/25/2017 8:04:56 AM PST by odawg
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To: libstripper

Clean elections would mean the end of the Democratic Party.


5 posted on 01/25/2017 8:05:31 AM PST by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: odawg

YOU nailed it !


6 posted on 01/25/2017 8:08:19 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: thoughtomator

“Clean elections would mean the end of the Democratic Party.”

W E L L ?


7 posted on 01/25/2017 8:09:03 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Louis Foxwell; 2ndDivisionVet; appalachian_dweller; aragorn; Arthur Wildfire! March; ASA Vet; ...

PING!!!

Article and comment #2

From the article:
The best study on the subject — a study that meets the Daubert standards for admissible evidence in a jury trial in a legal courtroom — provides substantial evidence that non-citizen voting alone likely reached over a million in this election. A trio of well-regarded scholars used scientifically approved methods to study the question of non-citizen voting in federal elections. The result of their study published in one of the best-regarded peer-review political science journals, Electoral Studies. The evidence from their study suggested upwards of 10% of non-citizens voted in 2008; given the issues implicated in this election, a higher number would be a reasonable inference for a jury to conclude. Given the increase in non-citizen members of the population, the same study’s conclusions would project out to millions of illegal votes from non-citizen voters in this election.

Thanks, Louis Foxwell & H/T WildHighlander57


8 posted on 01/25/2017 8:13:10 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: libstripper

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Correct, there is massive evidence of fraud having been a significant contributor to Democrat votes in every election since the mid ‘90s.

The MSM is simply playing the “Big Lie” tool for as long as they can hold it.

The judges that had ordered the recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania all saw the fraud rearing its head, and cancelled the recounts to keep from embarrassing the DNC.
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9 posted on 01/25/2017 8:19:03 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

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“Well” is a deep subject, and if you lay it down on its Left side, it makes a tunnel that crosses the border.
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10 posted on 01/25/2017 8:22:17 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: libstripper

Heck, I just saw an article “13% of Illegal Aliens Admit to voting.”
Trump has more than a ‘strong case’ regarding vote fraud, he has a National Security issue.


11 posted on 01/25/2017 8:24:06 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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Heck, I just saw an article “13% of Illegal Aliens Admit to voting.”
Trump has more than a ‘strong case’ regarding vote fraud, he has a National Security issue.


12 posted on 01/25/2017 8:24:07 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Whenifhow; Louis Foxwell; 2ndDivisionVet; appalachian_dweller; aragorn; Arthur Wildfire! March; ...

It is noteworthy that we started seeing the “11 million illegal immigrants” number way back in 2003, so in all likelihood, the REAL number is 20-25 million illegals.


13 posted on 01/25/2017 8:28:37 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Just committing the rapes, murder, identity theft, and welfare fraud most Americans are unwilling to do..


14 posted on 01/25/2017 8:32:37 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: editor-surveyor

Yeah : )


15 posted on 01/25/2017 8:33:14 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Whenifhow

There is no disputing the FACT that Loretta Sanchez (D) CA and Al Franken (D) MI were both put into congress via illegal votes, but confirmed by democrat controlled houses.


16 posted on 01/25/2017 8:40:49 AM PST by Baynative ( Someone's going to have to pay for these carbon emissions, so it might as well be you.)
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To: Little Ray

Trump wouldn’t be pushing this agenda if he didn’t have the evidence.

He already has the goods through his private sources. He’ll name a commission to investigate and their findings will be made public. Hopefully it will change the way elections are held.

Democrats will fight any change tooth and nail


17 posted on 01/25/2017 8:51:41 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Baynative; stephenjohnbanker; Whenifhow
Agree with Bay's and sjb's comments, 💯 %!!
18 posted on 01/25/2017 8:53:22 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: libstripper
non-citizen voting alone likely reached over a million .... upwards of 10% of non-citizens voted.

Suppose there are 30 million non-citizens in the US (Student visa, h1b, green card, tourist, many other visa categories and illegal immigrants). 10% of 30 million is 3 million, not 1 million. I realize the numbers are for 08 and 16 respectively. But even so, this just does not add up.

Furthermore, there is a big jump from votes being cast in the names of non-citizens to non-citizens actually voting. My firsthand knowledge is that natural born citizens commit the vote fraud. Natural born citizens vote multiple times using the names of the dead, those who have moved away, and of non-citizens and others they can expect won't try to vote in person.

This Identity Theft is mostly committed by employee and contract patronage of low level incumbents. That patronage has to deliver the vote in order to keep their special place at the trough of taxpayer money.

Most non-citizens recorded as voting actually no more vote than do the dead recorded as voting.

19 posted on 01/25/2017 8:53:38 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: libstripper

O’Muslim encouraged illegals to vote.
President Trump can use that video evidence too.


20 posted on 01/25/2017 9:15:23 AM PST by TheConservativeParty (TRUMP 45 Meet the new boss, not the same as any old boss.)
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