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To: Kaslin; All

As usual, Pat doesn’t really get it. The US citizens of CA have been the victims of a subtle, insidious invasion, sponsored and encouraged by the traitorous DemonCrap party, to separate CA from the US, a separation the will leave the US militarily weakened with our wet coast possessed by a hostile, marxist power. That’s been the purpose of the illegal alien invasion of CA all along. By now there are two or there million illegals voting illegally in that state.

They and the DemonCraps have stolen the state from its real citizens and now threaten secession, a horrible move that will fundamentally threaten the security of all of us.

The only solution to this is a full Federal investigation of the CA electoral system that will remove the illegals from the voting rolls and stop the myriad other forms of DemonCrap vote fraud. Pat’s suggestion would simply reward the thieves and traitors for their crimes .


16 posted on 02/24/2017 7:40:06 AM PST by libstripper (PRESIDENT)
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To: libstripper

I agree with you. My emotional response is, “Great! Let California go”. But that is not the best answer. That will only create more problems, and other states will eventually attempt to follow. Nevada was largely a Republican state for decades. But with the influx of illegal aliens, particularly in Las Vegas, the immigration of liberal Californians to Nevada, and the strength of the Democrat machine, the state is now being controlled by the Democrats, even though the rest of the state is primarily Republican. How long would it be before Nevada would have to join California, against the will of the Republicans who are being outnumbered?


20 posted on 02/24/2017 7:57:31 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: libstripper; MinuteGal

“As usual, Pat doesn’t really get it. The US citizens of CA have been the victims of a subtle, insidious invasion, sponsored and encouraged by the traitorous DemonCrap party, to separate CA from the US, a separation the will leave the US militarily weakened with our wet coast possessed by a hostile, marxist power. That’s been the purpose of the illegal alien invasion of CA all along. By now there are two or there million illegals voting illegally in that state.

They and the DemonCraps have stolen the state from its real citizens and now threaten secession, a horrible move that will fundamentally threaten the security of all of us.”

You are exactly right. And the usually astute Pat Buchanan misses the mark here. We cannot ever lose one of our ocean shore lines to the liberal enemy. It would be the equivalent of Israel pulling out of the Gaza Strip. It has brought them nothing but grief and turmoil. Creating a liberal haven, an enemy country having ownership of most of our Pacific Ocean shoreline, now that would be a disaster.

We would then have to win a country of CA back by war as versus changing the internal dynamics of CA by getting rid of illegal immigrants, withholding federal funding for bad behavior, and giving the whole country a booming economy that will lift all boats. But no secession by CA, ever.


21 posted on 02/24/2017 7:57:41 AM PST by flaglady47 (TRUMP 45. How sweet it is. )
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To: libstripper
I think that Pat understands perfectly what you are writing about. He has been a Conservative on immigration policy for as long as one can remember. And, of course, consider his statement, above:

A new federalism -- a devolution of power and resources away from Washington and back to states, cities, towns and citizens, to let them resolve their problems their own way and according to their own principles -- may be the price of retention of the American Union.

What he has suggested as the price for saving the American Union is--as Pat of course knows--the price, or the major part of the price, for forming the American Union to begin with. It was always the Constitutional intent; hence the absence in the Constitution of any Federal role for meddling in the social values of any community.

Now I recognize your plea on behalf of the rooted, loyal Americans in California--and the importance of the State, geographically & economically to her sister States. This raises questions not easily resolved--certainly not without a major change in the suffrage--even after we deal with those illegally voting now.

22 posted on 02/24/2017 8:07:13 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: libstripper
As usual, Pat doesn’t really get it. The US citizens of CA have been the victims of a subtle, insidious invasion, sponsored and encouraged by the traitorous DemonCrap party, to separate CA from the US, a separation the will leave the US militarily weakened with our wet coast possessed by a hostile, marxist power. That’s been the purpose of the illegal alien invasion of CA all along. By now there are two or there million illegals voting illegally in that state.

They and the DemonCraps have stolen the state from its real citizens and now threaten secession, a horrible move that will fundamentally threaten the security of all of us.

The only solution to this is a full Federal investigation of the CA electoral system that will remove the illegals from the voting rolls and stop the myriad other forms of DemonCrap vote fraud. Pat’s suggestion would simply reward the thieves and traitors for their crimes

If that could be done, good, such demographic changes are what some of his books are largely about. But flight from California according to some has helped turn states like Colorado, Oregon and Washington blue OR more blue. Certainly, one can make that case for Colorado, Californication.

25 posted on 02/24/2017 8:24:32 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: libstripper

The endgame is that we need to teach the left to fear our voices more than they love their own. LOL


29 posted on 02/24/2017 8:55:31 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: libstripper

Plus if California secedes, they will IMMEDIATELY form some type of treaty or bond with Russia or China, guaranteed. Can you imagine having a broke, insane , communist “failed state” (People’s Republik of Kalifornia) that has a mutual treaty with a super power communist nation existing right on our western border, with access to our Naval and AF bases, etc.

While in my dreams letting California go sounds like the easy solution, (culturally and politically) and would be delightful to just not have to deal with the commies there, I’m afraid national security wise it would be disastrous.

Plus we would be abandoning the conservatives that still live in California that are completely oppressed by the coastal commies (see Oroville Dam fiasco multiplied by 100)


32 posted on 02/24/2017 9:15:34 AM PST by boxlunch (Pray for Donald Trump's safety, for his family and cabinet. Make America Good Again!)
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