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1 posted on 03/06/2017 1:06:00 AM PST by Helicondelta
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Is it possible that Obama and his staff...were undermined by Lynch (in support of Hillary and the expected 2016 ‘win’)?

I could see Obama being so clue-less that he doesn’t realize what was going on and waking up now to realize all these Russia stories from within the Justice Department....were creations of a Hillary-Lynch gimmick.


2 posted on 03/06/2017 1:14:45 AM PST by pepsionice
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What was that order that Zero signed before he left office that allowed our intel to communicate stuff to our allies’ intel before applying privacy measures? Because there really is no other reason, is there, for an English PM having knowledge, in November, of the existence of a ‘surveillance warrant of US persons,’?

“However, the former British MP Louise Mensch reported in November that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (Fisa) court had granted the FBI a surveillance warrant of “US persons” to investigate possible contacts between Russian banks and Trump’s associates. In January, the BBC reported that the Fisa court had issued its warrant in October.
Also in January, the Guardian reported that the Fisa court had turned down an initial request for a warrant, and that the judge had asked investigators to narrow the terms of their search.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/04/fact-check-trump-obama-wiretap-tweets-rumors


3 posted on 03/06/2017 1:17:06 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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Equine excrement. Odungo was/is behind this 100%, as he has been with the manifold lawlessness of his alleged administration. A fish rots from the head.


4 posted on 03/06/2017 1:42:02 AM PST by nickedknack (Sump'n ain't rat cheer)
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the article’s writer and liberal conspiracy theorists imho ignore the larger view that trump is throwing gasoline on a 2 alarm blaze. imho that is not what someone who is worried about the harm to himself would do (or what am i missing?).

trump is using the press and congress to drag obama, the clintons, lynch, comey, clapper and probably a host of underlings out from under a rock. let it happen.

(could obama sue trump for libel? if he could, why would he not proceed? enquiring minds want to know...)


6 posted on 03/06/2017 1:46:41 AM PST by SteveH
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To: Helicondelta

The proof that Obama ordered it is the fact that he signed the executive order to relax the rules constraining information sharing on the NSA right before leaving office. A person would have to be willfully blind not to see this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/nsa-gets-more-latitude-to-share-intercepted-communications.html?_r=0


7 posted on 03/06/2017 2:17:40 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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There’s no way that Donald Trump was surveilled by federal intelligence agencies without a thumbs up from Obama.


9 posted on 03/06/2017 2:43:35 AM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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“I think he’s right in that there was surveillance and that it was conducted at the behest of the attorney general [not Obama] — at the Justice Department,”

A distinction without a difference.

11 posted on 03/06/2017 2:51:23 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Mukasey regularly defends infinite UNCONSTITUTIONAL wiretaps in the WSJ.


12 posted on 03/06/2017 3:02:29 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (The Washington Post is Jeff Bezos' Fake News unregulated SuperPAC.)
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The fake news media is all over this today making Trump out to be crazy and that there is no evidence. What the hell is up with Comey though? We had Mark Levin yesterday present overwhelming evidence and this d-bag Comey comes out saying it’s not true?


16 posted on 03/06/2017 3:38:25 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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This discussion needs to be in front of a federal grand jury with Jarrett, Comey, Clapper sitting in the witness box and Sessions at the podium.


19 posted on 03/06/2017 4:15:58 AM PST by anton
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I just saw Kellyanne Conway on Fox and Friends. She wouldn’t flat-out state that Trump was bugged, but kept saying that’s why the President wants an investigation - to learn what the truth is. That’s different from what Trump said on Saturday. He stated, as a fact, that the Obama administration was tapping his phone. No ambiguity about it. Does this new “well, that’s what investigations are for... to learn the truth” line seem like back-tracking to anyone else? It would be a huge blow if Trump was wrong about something so incredibly important. And, if he is, could the RATS have set him up with some fake info, knowing he’d be likely to get angry and tweet it out to the world?


21 posted on 03/06/2017 4:30:21 AM PST by Pravious
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there can be no expectation of privacy when using a public utility such as a telephone....


23 posted on 03/06/2017 4:49:05 AM PST by B212
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I cannot keep up with all of theories. This is now as clear as mud.

My only advice for Trump...do NOT let Sessions anywhere near a camera and microphone. This guy is not helping Trump.


28 posted on 03/06/2017 5:24:19 AM PST by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)
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:: and that it was conducted at the behest of the attorney general ::

(1) AG is a member of the EXECUTIVE BRANCH
(2) The AG acted unilaterally (not involving the “boss”) to obtain a tap?

REALLY?


30 posted on 03/06/2017 5:34:25 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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IMO, “The Tarmac Meeting” was not about treating Hillary’s transgressions lightly (AKA, unintentional) but more about squaring up the ‘government feed’ regarding Russian interference.

That “Benghazi was caused by a film” excused was not well prepared.
BillyJeff went beyond Yates on the tarmac “just to make sure”.

Lynch or/and Comey will take the fall for Obamugabe, ssaying that they acted unilaterally. Welcome to the United States of Chicago.

Google “Chicago Truck Scandal” and “Torrez”.


31 posted on 03/06/2017 5:41:55 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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Curt Schilling says the 2nd FISA request is accessible online - could someone post a link to it please?


36 posted on 03/06/2017 6:20:55 AM PST by golas1964
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but incorrect in accusing former President Barack Obama of ordering the wiretapping.

Sorry, the buck stops at the Oval Office.

37 posted on 03/06/2017 6:24:50 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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As has been said numerous times on this forum he probably did not order it but he authorized it.


44 posted on 03/06/2017 7:43:39 AM PST by Parley Baer
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50 posted on 03/06/2017 9:43:03 AM PST by kabar
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Once again I get the idea Clapper is behind yet another interesting story. sorry for the redundancy


53 posted on 03/06/2017 2:22:09 PM PST by mikhailovich
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