Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Trump’s Next Challenge: Russia Returns to Afghanistan
Fiscal Times ^ | 24 Mar 17 | Patrick Smith

Posted on 03/24/2017 2:34:44 AM PDT by elhombrelibre

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041 next last

1 posted on 03/24/2017 2:34:44 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

I’m not sure why we would object. As long as Russia is not spreading communism, and as long as they oppose terrorism, I’m okay with them in Syria, Afghanistan, and anywhere else.

At best, the neoconservatives and the newly anti-Russian liberals confuse me. The left has loved Russia for a century, and in the past few months they suddenly decided that Russia is bad? Real conservatives opposed Russia for as long as it was trying to spread communism, but what reason do we have for opposing the Russians now? Really though, I’m not confused. This is about power for those who stir up “Russia” news, not about the best interests of the United States.


2 posted on 03/24/2017 2:39:37 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

So you put putin power and empire above US freedom, that of our allies and all other nations wanting to be free of his influence and the Russian empire he aspires to build? It’s odd how much goodwill he got from losing his career as a KGB Colonel with the collapse of communism and his embrace of Russian chauvinism.


3 posted on 03/24/2017 2:55:23 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

So you put putin power and empire above US freedom, that of our allies and all other nations wanting to be free of his influence and the Russian empire he aspires to build? It’s odd how much goodwill he got from losing his career as a KGB Colonel with the collapse of communism and his embrace of Russian chauvinism.


4 posted on 03/24/2017 2:55:26 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

exactly

USA and Russia are natural allies


5 posted on 03/24/2017 3:00:56 AM PDT by vooch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre
Dear Patrick Smith of the Financial TImes, from your mouth to God's ear, in Jesus Name we pray!

Afghanistan? Take it, and "so long, and thanks for all the fish!"

6 posted on 03/24/2017 3:02:18 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

It depends on what you mean by “power and empire”. I have no objection to Russia being involved in Afghanistan in the same way that so many other countries already are. I do object if they do something that threatens our interests. There is a huge range of acceptable Russian actions in that window, and I have seen no sign that they are outside that range.


7 posted on 03/24/2017 3:19:05 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

Should have just dropped a hundred cobalt bombs on Afghanistan in 2001 and been done with it. Permanently.


8 posted on 03/24/2017 3:19:55 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: baltimorepoet

Perhaps you're right.

9 posted on 03/24/2017 3:26:25 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: vooch

They would be natural allies without putin and his president for life and his restoration of the soviet empire agenda.


10 posted on 03/24/2017 3:42:43 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

They can have Afghanistan, IMO


11 posted on 03/24/2017 3:44:14 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

Small correction. 2,216 might be the US deaths, but total NATO deaths is 3,529.


12 posted on 03/24/2017 3:49:08 AM PDT by Krosan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Morpheus2009

Beat me to it.

We don’t have the stones to glass it or otherwise neutralize the threat there, so let the Russkies be the ones taking casualties and losing troops.


13 posted on 03/24/2017 3:52:20 AM PDT by Laser_Ray
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre
There’s a larger reason Tillerson must discuss Afghanistan in Moscow next month. Russia and China are both laying the groundwork for a unified Eurasia to match the Atlantic alliance. It’s early days, but this is the biggest challenge to Washington’s global leadership now on the horizon

This is a vitally important, if a firm axis is cemented between Russia and China it will pick up as a proxy the axis running from Iran to Syria. If such a Russia/China axis were to be consummated, Germany is likely to peel off from NATO and align itself with the new axis or consent to some sort of neutral posture.

The consequences for America and the Western world could be tragic. If America is geographically isolated, it will soon be isolated in trade and it will clearly be intimidated by adversaries who control not just trade but possess intercontinental ICBMs capable of delivering nuclear weapons. The danger is not that America will be invaded by troops wading ashore, the danger is that the left in America will join the left in Germany and simply surrender.

I wrote a vanity along these lines.


14 posted on 03/24/2017 3:55:18 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

lol. But beside those little things..? :)


15 posted on 03/24/2017 3:55:28 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: nathanbedford

But why would Germany ally with these axis of evil? They’d enter the much crueler part of the world and their wealth would just be taken from them by force.


16 posted on 03/24/2017 4:07:39 AM PDT by Krosan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: nathanbedford

Well, said.


17 posted on 03/24/2017 4:11:15 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Krosan
For the reasons expressed in the vanity, because the demographic trend in Germany and in Europe is inexorable, because the left already dominates Germany and much of Europe, indeed I believe it is fair to say that as bad as she is, after Angela Merkel the deluge.


18 posted on 03/24/2017 4:15:34 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: nathanbedford

I agree with much of what you wrote, but the way I see it Afghanistan at this point is a CIA war. We aren’t there killing terrorists, we’re there protecting the opium trade and the CIA’s off book income stream that is being used to promote globalism and undermine U.S. liberty. All the arguments you make were made about Vietnam. Let Putin get sucked back into that quagmire, it will break Russia just as it’s doing to us. Russia is teetering financially now, returning to Afghanistan will further sap their resources.


19 posted on 03/24/2017 4:30:18 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: elhombrelibre

“Russia” has never been in Afghanistan. The SOVIET UNION was our opponent in Afghanistan, and, thanks to Ronald Reagan, no longer exists. The US and RUSSIA should be allies in Afghanistan, not opponents.


20 posted on 03/24/2017 4:45:09 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson