Posted on 03/24/2017 2:34:44 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
That will be difficult indeed if putin partners with the Taliban.
One example.
"In 1880 Britain accepts Abdurrahman as amir of Kabul, agreeing at the same time not to demand residence for a British envoy anywhere in Afghanistan. When British troops finally withdraw in 1881 (having meanwhile helped Abdurrahman against some rebellious cousins), the political achievement of two costly wars against Russian interference seems on the debit side. But at least Abdurrahman proves an excellent amir."
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?historyid=ad09
The Left hasn't loved "Russia" for a century; the Left has loved Communism for a century.
Russia wanting Afghanistan is like wishing for a box of cancer under the tree on Christmas Day.
Good point.
Fake news.
The Russians have been invited into Afghanistan to fill a U.S. vacuum in both military and diplomatic solutions
With Trump it may be too little too late to reverse the ruinous obama policies
” the enemy of my enemy” makes for strange alliances
ISIS is the enemy of both Russia and the Taliban and if the govt of Afghanistan can quietly get the Russians to get the Taliban to cooperate in killing IS foreigners so much the better
We should welcome watching the snakes hunt down and kill the scorpions
At least for now
Eventually the Taliban will turn on the Russians again
If you have never heard of “ The New Silk Road” project you should do some research
This is a huge project that will unite Eurasia into the world’s greatest trade empire, with all attendant strategic implications
Pieces of this project are falling into place slowly but surely, if you pay attention to the economic agreements, diplomacy and military cooperation that is developing
Perhaps Halford Mackinder will be proven right
They can have Afghanistan, IMO
I’m with you. In hindsight, perhaps it would’ve been smarter for the USA to have supported the USSR back when they invaded Assganistan in 1979. Too bad the cold war thinking at the time automatically caused us to support the very savages we are fighting today.
Why not just buddy up with them for a while and kill a whole bunch of muslems? It worked against the Nazis in WW II.
I’m with you. I was a college student during the 80’s Nuclear Freeze movement. Liberals were practically giving Russia a daily Lewinsky at that time.
“As long as Russia is not spreading communism,...”
What do you think our ‘elected’ officials have been spreading across the lower 48 the past 15+ years - liberty?
If they were to stick to that task, I’d be fine with it.
True enough, but not as an enemy of the US. THAT was the Soviet Union. Folks both there and here need to come to understand that the real enemy is imperial Islamism. Not Russia or China.
I am not fond of the results of our recent foreign entanglements or even the intentions of the past eight years. Our overseas objectives should be far more limited. We may not approve of the barbarians, but it is not our place to impose a form of government that they cannot even comprehend, especially not when it gives an appearance of legitimacy to the evil thugs they elect without actually producing better government.
Agree 100%.
“So you put putin power and empire above US freedom, that of our allies and all other nations wanting to be free of his influence and the Russian empire he aspires to build? It’s odd how much goodwill he got from losing his career as a KGB Colonel with the collapse of communism and his embrace of Russian chauvinism.”
Putin is not capable of reestablishing a Russian Empire. His country is too poor, and he doesn’t want a bunch of mini wars, or to look bad on the national stage. Putin is a Nationalist and a Populist. So is our new President. You keep trying to make it that Putin wants to bring back Communism, whereas throughout his entire regime so far, he has not done so. Plus, Putin is not a threat to our U.S. Freedom by a long shot. You use that comment as a faux fear tactic.
Get your head out of the old Cold War stand, and try to see that the Dems/Libs/MSM/NeoHawks like McCain/Graham, are trying to get us into a new Cold War with Russia based on their fake, drummed up conspiracy theories about a Trump/Putin election corruption connection that doesn’t exist.
The lefties/NeoHawks are trying to ruin any attempt by Trump at rapprochement with Russia based on common interests such as defeating ISIS, trade negotiations, working together in other hot spots such as Iran and North Korea, limiting China’s influence in Russia by turning Russia more westward leaning, getting Russia to be more westward leaning in general in the future where their true interests lie (it’s not with China), and working on other common interests such as cultural and financial, along with general economic issues.
Plus you a known Russian hater, so your viewpoint is always skewed in that direction.
The US needs to get completely out of Afghanistan. There is nothing or no one there worth the effort. The country will never be democratized, not even civilized, by ANYONE.
Let the Russians have it. If they are foolish enough to try to tame Afghanistan, let them waste their lives & assets, again.
Furthermore, the US needs to drop the concept of limited war. We’ve tried it numerous times & essentially lost each time, in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, & Iraq.
“Plus you a known Russian hater, so your viewpoint is always skewed in that direction.”
The missing “are”: You are a known Russian hater.
But I am not. I am not a hater at all. I'm a Christian who tries to follow Christ.
If POTUS can effect a rapprochement with putinstan that secures peace, the rule of law, freedom, and religious freedom I'd be fine with it. But I'm in a unique position that allows me to judge a tree by its fruits. And President Trump will be the third president who tried to look in to Putin's eyes and see a good guy, reset with him, or whatever bromide the pols want to use.
Possibly some forget that putin doesn't run a free country. He's president for life. He confiscates property of opposition and shoots some of them.
Once upon a time he was just another aspiring skinny slob in Leningrad who wanted to join the KGB. He did well. His friends in the KGB did well too. More and more Russians were taken away to the Gulag. Sad. Unfortunately for little Vladimir, his beloved Soviet Union, though, collapsed. For him, it was the worst event in the 20th Century. What to do? Or as Lenin said, "What is to be done?"
putin found a new scam. Why not become a Russian ultra-nationalist? Why not rebuild the Russian Empire?
You say he's not capable of that. I say that's his ethos that he uses to justify his presidency for life. It's his way around accountability to the Russian people for all the things he's stolen from them. It's his Big Lie.
It's not Cold War thinking. It's informed real time knowledge that you can dismiss without regard for the facts.
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