First things first:
DJT was not elected to be a hard-right conservative (of which I am one) executive. As has been mentioned many times during the election campaign, DJT attracted a great deal of blue dog Democrat type support.That is what won him the election in places like MI, WI, PA. However, he is hard right on things that matter to us (and them), like immigration/refugees/Obamacare/military/radical Islam/SCOTUS, etc.
But, something I read over at LS’ twitter feed made sense to me: that the FC kept moving the goalposts during the Obamacare debate. If true, and I believe the professor (since he has contacts over there that I do not have), that would be an absolute no-no in dealing with a DJT. It means that they were dealing in bad faith. Once you have burned someone by dealing in bad faith, especially in a matter so public, you have lost their trust. Perhaps for good. If true, DJTis wise to be cautious of dealing with them.
Regardless of how much I may agree with their positions on issues.
He needs to be able to count on their words.
“He needs to be able to count on their words.”
I remember some words I hear about 500 times that I counted on. “repeal and replace”.
So now we are throwing the FC under the bus for the sake of Trump?
When does this madness end? Seriously, what is the direction we (FR) are taking here?
Pinging the owner because I think this is reaching insane levels of spin.
Some call it moving the goal post . . . I also follow LS on Twitter . . .
But some information came out late, I’m thinking it was 36-48 hours before the scheduled Thursday vote that was then moved to Friday and then cancelled.
Seems the HFC found out from the Senate Parliamentarian that YES they could do more with the House Bill than Ryan had led them to believe via Reconciliation. I don’t consider that “moving the goal posts”. It was smart to try to do more with Phase 1, as much as possible, than wait for Phase 2 and Phase 3. While not the whole nine yards it was more . . . which was good to go for. I don’t know why they expected Paul Ryan to be an expert on Senate rules of what could and couldn’t be done.
Then they started losing the Moderates, the Tuesday Group.
DJT is wrong to lay this at the feet of the HFC.
Sure plenty of blame to go around but they deserve the LEAST of any blame.
Ryan drafted an AHCA that didn't address a single one of those points. Trump pushed Ryan's plan anyway.
Trump's seven-point plan has been removed from his website.
You tell me who is negotiating in bad faith here.
It is Trump who is "dealing in bad faith". He promised the voters to rid us of Obamacare and upon taking office, promptly conspired with Ryan to introduce an even more destructive bill. Now he's attacking those who stood against his bait and switch.
“the FC kept moving the goalposts during the Obamacare debate. If true, and I believe the professor (since he has contacts over there that I do not have), that would be an absolute no-no in dealing with a DJT”
A couple of things here, and I have negotiated some very large deals.
Whenever anyone moves the goalposts, even the customer, you know they are not dealing in good faith. You can now consider them dishonest, and it is usually better at that point to let them know what they did, and that you are willing to walk away from the deal unless they come back to the table in good faith. If they refuse, then you must walk.
Regarding, the professor, I have seen him say some whacky things. So take some of what he says with a grain of salt.
I challenge you to prove he’s hard right on anything. He’s gotten nothing passed, for one, and for two he sure did turn left on the one big issue (healthcare). How’s that proof that he’s “hard right” on anything?