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Single Payer Is Fool's Gold For California
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 3/31/2017 | Sally C. Pipes

Posted on 04/01/2017 6:03:01 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer

While the latest Republican attempt to repeal and replace ObamaCare may have failed, Democrats in California and in D.C. are just getting started in their effort to eliminate the health law.

Unfortunately, they're angling to replace ObamaCare with something even worse.

In California, State Senators Ricardo Lara and Toni Atkins introduced the details of the "The Healthy California Act," on March 30 which would create a "single-payer health care coverage program and a health care cost control system." And they're considering using the flexibility afforded by ObamaCare's "state innovation waivers" to enact this vision.

As Sen. Lara put it, "now more than ever is the time to talk about universal health care."

The opposite is true. Since ObamaCare became law seven years ago, the case for single-payer has only grown less convincing.

Consider the two states that have already tried and failed to launch single-payer systems.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare; singlepayer

1 posted on 04/01/2017 6:03:01 AM PDT by IBD editorial writer
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They are free to try. The states are sovereign, so they can screw up.


2 posted on 04/01/2017 6:04:09 AM PDT by proxy_user
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Socialism has failed everywhere its been tried.
As yet more evidence of this, single payer is always a disaster.

But by all means, let’s keep trying!!


3 posted on 04/01/2017 6:05:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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California has a proven track record of screwing things up.If all else fails and it appears like something might be working-they always have Jerry Brown to fall back on.Everything he touches turns to....


4 posted on 04/01/2017 6:08:20 AM PDT by Farmer Dean ("Do you want me to shoot,I'm rested.")
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Isn’t California already bankrupt? I suppose there is a limit on how dead you can get.


5 posted on 04/01/2017 6:08:47 AM PDT by stevem
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I would be willing to bet that their “state’s innovation waiver” is just one of the over 1400 instances of “....at the secretary’s [HHS] discretion....”

Fat frigging chance. Ubama and his ilk aren’t in charge any more and you twits aren’t going to waive your butts out of anything. The new HHS secretary isn’t an Ubama putz.


6 posted on 04/01/2017 6:10:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Happy say that single payer here in Colorado was voted down last fall.


7 posted on 04/01/2017 6:11:56 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Yes. But Single Payer will give them access to billions of new revenue.

You are a fool if you think that the massive taxes taken from Single Payer will be spent on healthcare as promised.

8 posted on 04/01/2017 6:15:48 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Let them, as long as the funding is entirely by the State.
Just make sure the Hollywood Elites, politicians, et al are covered by the same policy.
Give it a whirl. Crash and burn.


9 posted on 04/01/2017 6:16:16 AM PDT by Vinnie
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#CaliforniaSinglerPayer YES! Do it!

The liberal magnet will suck all progressives to California like a black hole!

Go California Go! Single payer.


10 posted on 04/01/2017 6:34:26 AM PDT by TheNext (Repeal only Individual Mandate. Let Obamacare compete.)
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Coulter had a decent column today about the health law, she notes it is welfare disguised as health insurance.

This pretty much sums up the whole thing. The dems have managed to conflate health insurance with health care. With a good number of dolts in this country now believing that health care is a right there will be no end to the stream of benefits coming at the taxpayers expense. What is always missing is healthcare is not free. Health insurance is not free either. To put them both together does not equal the same result. When they do conflate both, health insurance becomes nothing more than another tax.


11 posted on 04/01/2017 6:43:53 AM PDT by Mouton (There is a new sheriff in town.)
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Single-payer healthcare is a system in which the residents pay the state – via taxes in amounts determined by the state – to cover healthcare costs, rather than individuals buying from private insurers competing for their business.

How's California's current tax rate?

12 posted on 04/01/2017 6:57:30 AM PDT by McGruff (the AHCA turned out to be nothing more than Obamacare-lite)
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Once taxes are raised to pay for Socialized Medicine, that money becomes the State’s money. Californians had better hope that the politicians consider them important enough to spend ‘the State’s money’ on their health care. Oh, and who doesn’t think that all those illegals will get all the care they need/? Their VOTE is important. But, when it comes to the citizens, the older you are, the less important keeping you alive becomes. This might just be the final nail in the coffin of The Golden State. Such a beautiful place, ruined by the Democrats.


13 posted on 04/01/2017 7:29:01 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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Vermont and Colorado are 2 great examples of the fact that once liberals learn that they will have to pay for their single payer healthcare through much higher taxes because there are not enough 1 percenters in the state to pay it for them, they let out a collective never mind and try to think of other ways of getting “free” stuff.


14 posted on 04/01/2017 7:33:59 AM PDT by chuckee
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#GringoPayer


15 posted on 04/01/2017 7:52:56 AM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen)
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‘Failed to launch’ can also be attached to Husseincare.


16 posted on 04/01/2017 10:27:46 AM PDT by Libloather (Trivial Pursuit question - name the first female to lose TWO presidential elections!)
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The single-payer system I grew up under in Canada, also known as Medicare, condemns sick patients to delays that have grown ever-longer over the past few decades. Last year, Canadians waited an average of five months for medically necessary specialist treatments after receiving a referral from a general practitioner, according to the Fraser Institute, a Canadian think tank.

The hallmarks of single payer, socialized medicine:

1. Restricted and reduced services (doing the minimum, and less)

2. Delayed and reduced payments for services (as if this was cost control.) Doctors and med professionals will retire early or leave the state or profession. If you like your doctor, send him or her a happy retirement card.

3. Steadily declining quality control (lower quality physician education, less time spent w patients, abandoned follow-ups)

4. Waiting lists and lines that were previously unheard of here in the U S of A.

17 posted on 04/02/2017 4:36:31 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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