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Many of Trump's Staunchest Allies Feel Betrayed by Syria Attack
The New American ^ | April 11, 2017 | Alex Newman

Posted on 04/11/2017 3:09:34 PM PDT by VitacoreVision

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To: TigersEye

Russia will want to have the biggest say in who replaces Assad. They’re not likely to support someone who is not willing to help them kill terrorists.


Hahaha. Regardless of who Russia selects, they can’t guarantee the guy is skillful enough to keep the country together. The United States can’t guarantee Iraq isn’t a hotbed of terrorism, but Russia can guarantee that Syria isn’t? It might work, if they are lucky.


61 posted on 04/11/2017 4:47:28 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: TTFX

Maybe you can enlighten others on how the attacks in Syria are so clear especially for the huge numbers of Trump supporters who are shaking their heads in confusion.

Like I said in the post you responded to, I am not shaken by the confusion among the members of the Trump movement. I am only concerned that the intel product is the very best and is not defective to fool the President.


62 posted on 04/11/2017 4:48:13 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: grania
I feel that the swamp creatures who've slithered into the WH are selling President Trump on their globalist agenda. One of the things that got Trump elected was his promise to sit down with Putin and try to sort things out in the ME, to the benefit of everyone.

I feel that the globalist crowd used the whole bogus Russia collusion thing as cover while they took over the foreign affairs agenda. Trump has got to clean house, especially if it means certain family members have to be "fired".

Exactly. I don't feel angry or betrayed, but I am very disappointed that we did not see the US and Russia meet and work out plans to defeat ISIS and set up safe zones in Syria as Trump mentioned often during the campaign. Whether or not Putin would have done that, who knows. But at least the US could have made the proposal to do something constructive jointly and put him in the position to agree or refuse.

And I agree the whole Russian election interference/collusion with Trump conspiracy mongering made any cooperation with Russia less likely, plus the Dims deliberate delay in approving Trump's key nominees.

And, also, it never seemed any effort was made to communicate with Russia on those possibilities and now here we are.

63 posted on 04/11/2017 4:48:52 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Hostage
That the Sarin gas attack was really caused by ISIS is now the Russian line.

Putin was proposing that as the reason today.

64 posted on 04/11/2017 4:49:15 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Will88

And I agree the whole Russian election interference/collusion with Trump conspiracy mongering made any cooperation with Russia less likely, plus the Dims deliberate delay in approving Trump’s key nominees.


plus, McCain threatening congressional sanctions if Trump cooperates with Russia.


65 posted on 04/11/2017 4:52:21 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: TTFX

Is Assad “holding the country together?” And who said anything about guarantees. If you want a guarantee in life go to Midas.


66 posted on 04/11/2017 4:56:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: VitacoreVision

Well this is exactly out of the Share Blue playbook. Turn Trump supporters against each other and cheer on the never Trumpers.

So the same never Trumpers will throw a hissy fit. It’s rather predictable and sad that so we people fall for this.


67 posted on 04/11/2017 4:57:46 PM PDT by 1scrappymom (No, I am not a Republican. I am a CONSERVATIVE. PROUD ARMY MOM)
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To: TTFX
plus, McCain threatening congressional sanctions if Trump cooperates with Russia.

Yep, the behavior of many Dims and some Republicans damaged the possibility that Trump could have worked out some really positive agreements and joint efforts with Putin. And Juan McCain is just beneath contempt.

68 posted on 04/11/2017 4:58:31 PM PDT by Will88
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To: VitacoreVision

Apparently they aren’t staunch after all

More like pearl clutchers


69 posted on 04/11/2017 5:07:20 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: TigersEye

Assad (with Russian help was winning albeit slowly). The U.S. literally has “boots on the ground” training “Syrian Rebels”. Why would the Russians just bend over and accept a new leader who is an unknown? Assad is doing what they want him to do. Sorry, but Trumps move is looking dumber and dumber to all but the Neo-Cons, Leftists, and cognitively-challenged Right.


70 posted on 04/11/2017 5:10:29 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: muleskinner

ISIS has been caught dozens of times in years past launching chemical attacks.

ISIS has no hesitation at committing war crimes,, killing babies, chopping off the heads of Christians including Christian children. All of this is known, verified, documented, confirmed.

Like I said, I could care less that Syrian jets are busted, bombed, twisted, wrecked. I could care less for the display of fireworks that landed on these jets.

The only thing that matters to me is the Obama embeds in the Deep State are not finding a pathway to transmit bogus information that reaches the President.


71 posted on 04/11/2017 5:10:56 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: drypowder
NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES, Trump beats the hell out of having the hag in the WH

That, my FRiend, is exactly wrong, and part of the reason why FR & CTH have been so quiet since the attack was launched.

Trump excited conservatives because he offered the faint hope that citizens might just be able to regain civilian control of the federal government. You know, that whole 'for the people, by the people' thing.

However, the attack demonstrated for anyone paying attention that Trump is a captive of the Deep state. He initially exposed the lie that is the uni-party, and ran as an outsider promising reform. But, as we've now seen, he/we greatly underestimated the power of the executive, and reality has come crashing down on everyone's parade.

In response to your point, the Deep state simply does not care if the US is comprised of muzzies, illegals, Xians. It doesn't care if we have socialized medicine, open borders, or disadvantaged trade deals. It doesn't matter if we have strict constitutionalists or a living constitution. None of these domestic issues matter a whit, because all the Deep state cares about is its unencumbered ability to continue waging global imperial war.

It was Trump's acquiescence, the very day the two chief neo-cons, Linda and McInsane, voted to terminate the filibuster as part of their end in the bargain, that sent a message to anyone with a clue.

If Hilldog was president, the domestic situation would obviously be different, but foreign policy would be 100% identical. If people cannot figure out that the financial military industrial complex runs the US for the benefit of itself, then they will continue to impotently complain & opine.

It's the degree of realization among informed observers of what went down, and why comment volume is down. What's the point when you finally, **finally** wake up from a self-induced fantasy and confront hard reality?

72 posted on 04/11/2017 5:11:22 PM PDT by semantic
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To: drypowder

NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES, Trump beats the hell out of having the hag in the WH
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OR the gay muslim Spider Monkey...


73 posted on 04/11/2017 5:13:15 PM PDT by Gideon300
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To: VitacoreVision
Constitutionalists are the New Enemy?

Around here lately, yes.

74 posted on 04/11/2017 5:20:31 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Bishop_Malachi
Why would the Russians just bend over and accept a new leader who is an unknown?

Because it's not working out very well. Especially considering recent developments.

Trump's move only looks dumb to dumb people.

75 posted on 04/11/2017 5:32:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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To: VitacoreVision

BUNK....the attack wasn’t illegal and was necessary....unlike Obama, Trump wasn’t willing ti sit by and watch Assad slaughter innocent people.


76 posted on 04/11/2017 5:42:45 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!!!!)
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To: VitacoreVision

Where’s that boo hoo girl GIF?


77 posted on 04/11/2017 5:55:46 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: TigersEye

Is Assad “holding the country together?”


My guess is he does it better than whoever comes next. You seem fairly confident the next guy will be better, based on... nothing apparently. No thought. Just impulsive action.


78 posted on 04/11/2017 5:56:45 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: VitacoreVision
We have people in country working on the ISIS campaign. We can't have Assad tossing chemical weapons around, so Trump sent them a message about that. This wasn't a decapitation strike or policy change toward regime change... just a message telling Assad to lay off the chemical attacks.

I don't have an issue with that.

79 posted on 04/11/2017 6:00:24 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: VitacoreVision

I’m fine with it. Husband had to convince me. He is a harder one to convince than I am.


80 posted on 04/11/2017 6:04:30 PM PDT by petitfour (Appeal to Heaven)
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