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Apple may aid investigation into deadly 2016 EgyptAir crash
AppleInsider ^ | Friday, May 26,2017 | By Roger Fingas

Posted on 05/26/2017 1:26:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker

Apple on Friday said that it's open to cooperation with French authorities, who are exploring the possibility that two of the company's devices were linked to the crash of EgyptAir Flight 804 in 2016.




The flight's first officer may have plugged an iPhone 6s and an iPad mini 4 into the wrong socket in the jet's cockpit, French officials told Le Parisien. That may have triggered runaway heat, in turn sparking a fire.

At the moment, the investigation is being helped by an engineer from the French National Center for Scientific Research, as well as two people fron the French defense ministry, including a physics professor and an engineer specializing in batteries. Results from the investigation should be submitted by Sept. 30.

Apple told the Parisien that it wasn't aware of evidence linking its devices to the EgyptAir disaster.

Batteries in the company's products are occasionally blamed for causing fires. Most recently an Australian woman complained that her Beats headphones exploded mid-flight, but Apple blamed the incident on her using third-party batteries.

The company has had to admit fault in the past, for instance instituting not one but two replacement programs for the first-generation iPod nano.

EgyptAir Flight 804 vanished over the Mediterranean on May 19 last year, killing 66 people. The jet was flying from Paris to Cairo at 37,000 feet when it suddenly veered 90 degrees to the left, then 360 degrees to the right, and began dropping altitude.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aircrash; applepinglist; egyptairflight804; france

1 posted on 05/26/2017 1:26:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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Was AirEgypt Flight 804 brought down because the First Officer plugged an Apple iPhone 6s and an iPad mini 4 into the wrong socket on the flight deck of the plane? Apple is willing to help French authorities in their investigation of that possibility. Both devices have power limiters in their charging circuitry, so I find it highly unlikely that such a scenario would cause what is being claimed, but it is a possibility that needs to be explored. — PING!


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2 posted on 05/26/2017 1:33:09 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

The next thing Apple will take the blame for is people deciding to bring 230v extension cords into bath tubs to charge devices, and creating electrocution hazards...


3 posted on 05/26/2017 1:46:57 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Swordmaker

This sounds like total BS.


4 posted on 05/26/2017 1:52:39 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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This "possibility" is merely that. I translated the French language article on which this speculation is entirely based and it is that, entirely speculation. They are basing it on the fact that the co-pilot was seen placing a phone and a tablet on the top of the dashboard of the plane when he sat down at his pilot position when he got into the cabin. Combine that with the known fires from SAMSUNG phones and you have the speculation that Apple iPhones and iPads might ALSO suddenly burst into flames IF their chargers were plugged into an outlet not intended for "coffee makers" or other crew supplied appliances but are rather provided for the convenience of the airline in the cabin for airline equipment.

Here is the Google Translation of the French article "Crash d'EgyptAir : des experts se penchent sur des iPhone et des iPad," Jean-Marc Ducos et Vincent Vérier, |26 mai 2017, from Le Parisien:

The French Examining Magistrates wished to know whether the presence of these aircraft in the cockpit could be the cause of the fire.

Will the French justice shake the American giant Apple? According to our information, the three investigating judges in charge of the investigation of the crash of EgyptAir flight MS 804 between Paris and Cairo, in the Mediterranean, on May 19, 2016 (66 deaths including 15 French) are interesting to the track of a fire in the cockpit provoked by Apple hardware, as we revealed in January: an iPhone 6S and iPad mini 4 belonging to the copilot. Last week, an expert assessment of these devices was ordered and three judicial experts were appointed.

  Given the "exceptional nature" of this expertise, the magistrates wrote in a document dated May 17 that we were able to consult, but also on the "complexity and technicality of the mission", the judges chose specialists who are not on the usual list of experts from the Ministry of Justice. They retained a research engineer at CNRS, a physicist in the physics of solids from the Ministry of the Army, and a engineer specializing in Lithium batteries, who also comes from the Ministry of the Army. Their mission is to determine accurately whether these devices, including their batteries, would have been able to trigger the disaster. Experts are asked to acquire "three iPad Mini wi-fi 3G model A 1455" and "three iPhone 6S, both new and used". Smartphones and tablets will be tested.

Causing a fire and analyzing fumes

But above all, the experts will "cause a thermal runaway", write the judges in their mission letter. After determining whether the appliances can catch fire, experts should cause this fire, in order to calculate the heat radiation produced and to analyze the soot and smoke that emanate. Through this expertise, filmed and recorded, investigators look to see if the tablet and the smartphone can catch fire spontaneously and, if so, under what conditions and at what speed; And ultimately to determine whether the combustion of the aircraft could have rendered the aircraft uncontrollable and / or asphyxiated the pilots.

Their report must be submitted to the judge by 30 September. This orientation of the investigation comes after a careful work of the research section of the gendarmerie of air transport (GTA). They had identified the presence of Apple products with cameras that scanned the cockpit of the aircraft parked at its departure station at Roissy airport. But also during the passage of the security check of the crews, who scanned their personal belongings. "The solution of this tragedy may be found in the connection of these devices between the current delivered by the sockets behind the co-pilot and the reception of this current by lithium battery devices," says a source close to the investigation.

  Asked by us on Thursday of this request for expertise, Apple made this answer: "We were not contacted by the GTA or any other authority investigating this tragic event. We have not had access to any reports, but our understanding is that there is no evidence linking this event to Apple products. We are entirely at the disposal of the investigators to answer any question. We rigorously test our products to ensure that they meet or exceed international safety standards. "

 

Lithium batteries under surveillance

Laptop, phone, or tablet, the problem of electric appliances that ignite, and more particularly their lithium batteries, is carefully followed by the airlines. For example, when dozens of the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 had caught fire on the ground, the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA), the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Transport Canada had recommended that these aircraft be turned off The duration of the flight. There is no ban on traveling with your phone, computer or tablet. The EASA simply recommends not to ship batteries more than 100 watts per hour.

For personnel in the cockpit, it is forbidden to travel with these devices unless they are issued to the pilots by the company in the course of their work. For example, Air France or Transavia have a specific Nav / Aero tablet. "The cockpit plugs are not made to connect the toaster or the coffee maker. They are professional plugs, "says a source close to the file.


5 posted on 05/26/2017 2:04:06 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: TalonDJ

Why, because lithium batteries in an Apple device obey different laws of physics?


6 posted on 05/26/2017 2:07:20 PM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: bigbob

They obey a much cooler more sophisticated version of the laws of physics! Laws of Physics that hang out at Starbucks!


7 posted on 05/26/2017 2:12:21 PM PDT by Reily
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To: bigbob
After determining whether the appliances can catch fire, experts should cause this fire, in order to calculate the heat radiation produced and to analyze the soot and smoke that emanate.

Send it to 60 minutes they can make anything explode, if they can't, they will dynamite it until it does.

8 posted on 05/26/2017 2:53:20 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Swordmaker

They flew into a black hole...


9 posted on 05/26/2017 4:17:48 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Swordmaker

Too much strange stuff happens to Airbus avionics.


10 posted on 05/26/2017 5:46:01 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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