Posted on 06/09/2017 5:04:32 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
A cyclist died after a good Samaritan rushed into a hospital to get help and was told to call 999 because there were no doctors. Marc Banting witnessed Nick Wilsdon, 44, lose control of his bicycle and swerve sideways into a van outside Bristol Royal Infirmary (BRI) and rushed into the hospital to ask for help. But Mr Banting claims he was told to phone 999 as the hospital could not spare any doctors.
Mr Wilsdon, a musician and therapist who was described as a "wonderful, talented, much-loved man" by his family, died of his injuries a few days later. Mr Banting, 43, said he stopped to try and help the cyclist, but was unsure about moving him as he had clearly suffered serious head injuries. He said: "I ran into the BRI and asked them to send a doctor out, but they refused. "They said the doctors were all busy in A&E and they couldn't just call one out of there, and to call 999 as it would be quicker.
"I told them there was a man dying in the street and they were not interested and reiterated to call 999. "We had to call for an ambulance which took its time as it was rush hour - it was easily 15 minutes, but it felt like an eternity."
Two medical emergency cars, one ambulance and five police vehicles were on the scene Two medical emergency cars, one ambulance and five police vehicles were on the scene Credit: SWNS In a tribute, Mr Wilsdon's family said: "Nick had an enormous group of friends all over the world who were always glad to see him. "He was at base an intellectual who loved to explore ideas but was also a talented musician.
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Love that UK NHS - many horror stories about them.
My Brother died of a heart attack. Knowing it was serious his wife drove him to the nearest hospital around 11 miles away, nearly all of it interstate. She knew that would be much faster than an ambulance.
One of their children phoned the hospital and they had people waiting in the parking lot. He was dead by the time they got there. Still they did what they could.
I think most American hospitals would do the same.
Coming to America if the dimoKKKRATS have their way.
Hospitals are not in the transport business.
I know it sounds unusual, but if something negative happened in the transport, the hospital would be exposed to litigation. What’s more, it wouldn’t be prepared or capable of giving the kind of care the person would need.
They don’t have the type of gurneys or portable defibrillators and other things that Emergency Responders do. Emergency responders are taught to stabilize and transport. They have the precise training that would be called for, and the exact equipment that would be called for. If immobilization is required, they have lots of experience in the field.
Hospital staff are not trained as a first responder. It’s something that is different than the service hospitals provide.
National Health Service not at your service.
Unless you're a member of the Elite like a Congressman, Senator or staff member. Then you get the Golden Plan.
That’ll happen in the states in some places. Strong EMT unions will prohibit hospitals from directly accepting wounded without coming in by ambulance service.
I recall another case where the EMT’s were on break and could not respond to a call and the person died as they waited for another ‘on-duty’ response from some distance to come.
Calling 999 there or 911 here is the best thing to do and immediately Begin CPR. Don’t stop till you drop from exhaustion. EVERYONE should know CPR.
I don’t know the complete story you are speaking of.
Remember that what is needed is for the first responder to get to the location of the person in need.
People think, “I’ll get him to the hospital quicker.” What they should be thinking in many instances, is get medical care to him as fast as possible.
In cities, that means calling 911. Generally a 911 call will get a first responder to you in a few minutes.
Then they provide medical care on the spot to the person down.
They can get a heart restarted, give professional CPR and other needed services. By the time they transport, the person is generally stable.
Driving a person to the hospital may take ten minutes, when they might have been able to get care on sight in five.
Perhaps your brother lived out of town or some such, and so it was impossible to get an emergency response team there.
So sorry about the outcome, and the loss to you and your family.
This has nothing to do with socialized medicine. The hospital near me has multiple offices and buildings around the hospital. One is even attached to the main building, but if you have a medical emergency there, they will call 911.
Near our hospital were Doctor’s office buildings.
One cardiologist had a patient code in his office. He called 911.
At the time, I thought it was strange. Actually it was the right thing to do.
Sorry, he was outside the Emergency Room of the hospital. In this country, I believe a doctor would have gone out to help.
...and stooopid Kalifornia wants single payer?
Bullsqueeze.... sheer and utter bullsqueeze.
Hospitals are not in the transport business, true.... but there is no ER nurse, tech, or doc that wouldn’t run out to an accident in the parking lot or adjacent street.
My dad went through a very difficult last few years of his life where 911 had to be called relatively often. It Was always by far the best thing to do. Awesome people were on the scene within minutes.
Sorry for your loss
The scary thing is that despite the full socialized medicine, the United Kingdom has a higher life expectancy than the USA according to the UN stats. On the bright side, not even Bernie Sanders is calling for more than socialized insurance like Canada has which is less onerous than the full socialism of Britain.
PS-you can’t successfully sue the Government! And under single-payer, the doctors and hospitals are all Government owned.
In Britain, those who can afford it can choose to buy extra private insurance and go to private doctors. In London, the doctors are all located on Harley Street. I don’t think you have that freedom in Canada. I don’t think there is any private care in Canada.
Anyone living far away from a hospital is faced with a dilemma. Do you try to race to a hospital when you are unable to administer CPR and probably drive dangerously (we live 25 miles fron the nearest medical?) Or do you call 9/11 and do CPR and wait for help? Our Doctors recommended that we call and do CPR, and that is our plan. Who knows if it is thr right one, but if your spouse is next to you for the 20 minutes, they get no help. It is something to decide ahead of time.
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