New Research Shows Guccifer 2.0 Files Were Copied Locally, Not Hacked

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[FreedomOfExpression]

The way this reads, we are to believe that every time you touch a file, mysterious meta data is stored. Every time we copy a file mysterious meta data is stored.

That isn’t reality.

Really? So you don't believe that "mysterious" (play eerie music here) metadata is stored in photographs or any other files by default? Denying reality doesn't make it less real.

[seastay]

I have read elsewhere the Guccifer 2 files have meta tags that it can be shown that was originally English , but changed to Russian to make it look as if the files went through a Russian computer ... the theory is these Guccifer 2 leaks not necessarily were damaging but were leaked on purpose by the dnc with fake Russian meta tags so as to use as evidence before a wire tap judge to tap trump. Later wicki leaks got a hold of real leaked server files , many damaging to dnc obtained still by nobody knows, ( wicki says not from a state source ) . The DNC panicked realizing the first set of leaked files they released with fake Russia meta tags would not have the same meta tags as the wicki leaks.. and still are sticking to the Russian fake narrative by their own leaks they created to frame trump , claim 17 agencies bla bla bla... but still we haven't examined the dnc server, and the wicki leaks appear to come from a different source than Guccifer 2,, yet nobody in the main streem seems to be getting or even cares that the russian connection found in the leaked documents from Guccifer 2. was all made up as was the name Guccifer 2. by the dnc to wiretap trump...

[nicollo]

I’m a technical ignorant, but this is very simple: if these files were downloaded remotely via a remote hack, the time stamp on the various files would have had more space between them due to slower speeds via the remote connection. Instead, the time stamps on these files shows they had to be downloaded via a local connection. There’s also some evidence it was to a USB, so that, too.

What bothers me is that this is news: this is entirely obvious and I would assume any FBI or other forensic analysis would have looked for this type of metadata immediately.

[Nifster]

Exactly what I thought

[Nifster]

I see what you did there

Nicely played

[Vendome]

Most hacks are not, in fact, hacks in the sense people think of them.

They are inside jobs.

[laxcoach]

It really depends on how it was downloaded - what software. The create/modified dates can remain unchanged. Any software I have ever written or used keeps the timestamps intact.

[Nifster]

Doesn’t anyone remember the DNC getting furious with Bernies team for stealing files from its server? They claim only donor names....I doubt that

[henkster]

Just because Seth Rich downloaded the emails to a USB drive doesn’t mean that the Russians didn’t also hack into the DNC server. And just because the Russians hacked into the DNC server doesn’t mean Seth Rich didn’t also download the emails to a USB device. The point is that it was the content of those emails, revealing the corruption of the DNC, that damaged Clinton’s campaign. Neither Seth Rich nor the Russians wrote those emails.

[sarge83]

Does anyone trust the FBI as far as they can throw them? At this point the FBI makes Barney Fife look like a competent Sherlock Holme they are so tainted and sadly just a stupidly partisan hack agency of the US government. Where does one turn to for justice at this point in the USA?

[Vendome]

LOL!

[Cboldt]

I read a different analysis that looked at the so-called meta-data in a MSWord doc file, the material accessible under "Files/Properties" from the user menu. That analysis basically concluded that Guccifer 2.0 was not who he claimed to be.

As you point out, otherwise meta-data is (usually) limited to datestamp. I'd add to a possibility in MSWord files, some change/diff/author history, if the function of recording that data is turned on.

The article is adding another layer of meta-data, that being a timestamp associated with packing files in a compressed archive.

-- ... even if you did have that kind of meta data, it could be altered. --

Yep.

[JohnyBoy]

>Does anyone trust the FBI as far as they can throw them? At this point the FBI makes Barney Fife look like a competent Sherlock Holme they are so tainted and sadly just a stupidly partisan hack agency of the US government. Where does one turn to for justice at this point in the USA?

There’s no justice for most people in America. Most of us just try to avoid being entangled and destroyed by the legal system.

[TigersEye]

I would assume any FBI or other forensic analysis would have looked for this type of metadata immediately.

The DNC wouldn't let the FBI examine their servers. The DNC used a private company called Crowdstrike, that they already employed, to examine their servers. Crowdstrike gave the FBI a report but never shared the actual data with them. The FBI was OK with that.

[rodguy911]

Exactly Seth Rich had to physically be there to plug in those three thumb drives and he was.

[Cboldt]

To me, the trickier part, once "in the system" either via Linux (which is a way to bypass the access security built into an e.g. native MSWindows system) or via Win, is to know the location of the files.

An to make that point clear, what I am saying is that this would be tricky to me, personally, not that it's tricky per se. It just takes some time to learn where the emails are stored.

[rodguy911]

Actually, Hillary and Huma mae the final call by request of Gennifer Palmieri.

[rodguy911]

“Metadata is data that describes other data. Meta is a prefix that in most information technology usages means “an underlying definition or description.” Metadata summarizes basic information about data, which can make finding and working with particular instances of data easier.”
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Pretty sure this is what
George Webb Schweigert had in mind when he constantly referred to metadata.

[rodguy911]

I have read elsewhere the Guccifer 2 files have meta tags that it can be shown that was originally English , but changed to Russian to make it look as if the files went through a Russian computer ... the theory is these Guccifer 2 leaks not necessarily were damaging but were leaked on purpose by the dnc with fake Russian meta tags so as to use as evidence before a wire tap judge to tap trump.

Exactly what I heard and read as well. Whomever tried the translation fromenglish to Russian screwed up several times and is how they were outed.

[Major Matt Mason]

Alperovitch is Ukranian, and the Atlantic Council (or whatever it is called) has ties with the Ukraine. So yes, not Russia.