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The Rift Between President Trump and AG Sessions is Very Real and Very Valid…
The Last Refuge ^ | July 25, 2017 | sundance

Posted on 07/25/2017 7:33:44 PM PDT by Bratch

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To: dragnet2

Love that cruz/beck pick


81 posted on 07/25/2017 9:03:05 PM PDT by pass-the-biscuits-please
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To: Bratch

I am wrong. Oops.


82 posted on 07/25/2017 9:04:20 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (https://thepurginglutheran.wordpress.com)
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To: Will88

You are wrong... Trump’s voters have been on a tin ear wondering why Sessions has not gone after hillary and those who are openly criminals... going after Trump who they can’t prove a thing, and leaving hillary off the hook... we have been livid!


83 posted on 07/25/2017 9:04:21 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Bratch

“He might not desire to participate in an epic battle of such a politically adversarial nature.” True.

Mattis can help in this department. So can the writers at Strategy Page. American politics are solved by going back to Constitution and common sense.

Sesssion has my support and needs prayers to defeat Culture of Death in DC.

Sundance has my support and he gets some credit for defeating Hillary.


84 posted on 07/25/2017 9:04:32 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

You go girl!!!!


85 posted on 07/25/2017 9:06:11 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: dragnet2

Sessions has to find his nut sack or gtfo


86 posted on 07/25/2017 9:06:43 PM PDT by pass-the-biscuits-please
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To: pass-the-biscuits-please
I'm good with what ever Trump goes with. He could fire Sessions tonight and it wouldn't bother me. I voted for Trump, not Sessions. He just came along with the deal.☺
87 posted on 07/25/2017 9:13:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: pass-the-biscuits-please

Btw, there are more aggressive people out there that can fill the AG spot. We’ll see.


88 posted on 07/25/2017 9:16:17 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: meatloaf

I guess in the next couple of days we’ll see who is more correct—LS or Sundance.

They both have impressed me with their insight and analysis of politics.


89 posted on 07/25/2017 9:16:56 PM PDT by PeteyBoy (The wall. Build it and they won't come.)
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To: Will88
Evangelicals and other groups of conservatives don't like this sort of public humiliation and trashing of a well respected conservative of longstanding.

I tend to agree. I'm very glad that Hillary isn't our President. But that doesn't mean that I have to fall at the feet of Trump and worship him. In manner he is, simply put, a jackass. Perhaps we need some of that in these corrupt times. But it doesn't make that a type of character to be highly desired or that we would like to see emulated by family and friends. Maybe that's how they do it on the streets of New York, but it will eventually grow old in many parts of the Heartland.

For those who worship him, let me say this: First these out of control hissy-fits are directed by Trump and his worshipers at Sessions and soon after at Breitbart News. Then it will be at me, and soon it will be at you. It's not easy to be an insider with someone who views everyone as the enemy.

I'm thankful for Trump's Supreme Court appointment and for some other actions. I hope that he will continue to champion our causes and not just his ego. Bravado and swagger may win the day, but character is more important for the long term. The President has feet of clay and doesn't realize it or is unwilling to admit it. I hope that President Trump acquires more character, that he succeeds as a leader, and will one day be remembered as a conservative icon. The fact that I don't fall at his feet and praise even his shortcomings doesn't mean that I don't wish him well.
90 posted on 07/25/2017 9:22:48 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Will88

Trump is running into the same issues every president has faced. Even if he is the President he doesn’t have the effective reach of a business exec. The bureaucracy is too convoluted. If he just manages to weed out and roll back the exec. branch excesses and off the rail ops, he will have been a success. He’s dealing with a mess that took 70 years to build.


91 posted on 07/25/2017 9:23:29 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: CrimsonTidegirl
Sessions has DCitus. The senate operates like a large club, sure there is some "fighting" for the public consumption but deep down it is a place where there is us and them and they are not talking about political parties.

Sessions, as far as I can tell, did not think that Trump was serious about draining the swamp. He expected a few small things for the media but nothing major. Now he is finding out that business as usual is not acceptable to his boss. He had to choose between his old buddies in the senate and this upstart outsider who just does not understand how things are done. He is choosing poorly.

I look for Trump to fire Sessions sometime after the senate goes into recess and do a recess appointment of someone who has no friends in Washington DC. He will be ordered to pull the plug on the swamp.

92 posted on 07/25/2017 9:23:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Will88
Yep, and there is some percentage of them who will stay home on election day if they find a candidate's behavior or attitude objectionable,

Big problem for Sessions is that he has (alleged) "allies" telling the media (according to the media, so could be fake news) that he basically knows Trump wants him to resign, has found Trump's tweets "offensive," but is going to "stay strong" and not resign anyway.

If all that is true, then Trump is correct to attack Sessions since he is in open rebellion against the President. A humble servant of the President would have resigned the moment it became clear he lost the confidence of POTUS. If the split between those two is real, it's clear it's because Sessions is refusing to bring the offensive against the Democrat Party and Hillary Clinton, when that is what is most needed.

93 posted on 07/25/2017 9:26:42 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Bratch
Under the former administration the Department of Justice was weaponized politically and legally by the executive branch against ordinary American citizens.....This underlying corrupt architecture is what Jeff Sessions is choosing to ignore.

Was not Trump explicit when hiring Sessions that the whole DOJ swamp needed to be cleaned? Obama hired Holder and Lynch who did Obama's bidding and happily pushed his marxist agenda, in total agreement with him. They would never think of recusing themselves from anything. WHY is it SO hard for Republicans to act with the same purpose and commitment?

94 posted on 07/25/2017 9:27:33 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: dragnet2
"I'm good with what ever Trump goes with. He could fire Sessions tonight and it wouldn't bother me. I voted for Trump, not Sessions. He just came along with the deal.☺" Probably, 99.99% of Trump's voters, his real supporters, feel the same way. They/we know that Trump and his people are doing what we voted for, each day!
95 posted on 07/25/2017 9:31:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Voting for Trump to be our President, made 62+ million of us into Dumb Deplorable Colluders, MAGA!)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
In manner he is, simply put, a jackass.

If Sessions knows Trump wants him to resign, and if the reports are true that Sessions is going to "stand strong" anyway, then it means Trump's criticisms are valid, since Sessions is disobeying the President. Having people approach the media to complain about being treated bad by the President, and to say he knows Trump wants him to resign, is not the behavior of a humble servant of the President.

This is the elephant in the room and why elitist "Oh, Trump is such a jackass" knee jerk reactions are short sighted.

Luckily, this was always a minority position despite being predominant on social media forums. History has shown Trump supporters aren't going around pearl clutching when fights break out or sacred cows are poked.

96 posted on 07/25/2017 9:32:34 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Will88; LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Can you give us a list of balled and eager candidates?

That list may be appearing very soon, courtesy of that "same old tiresome reality", and were it not condensed into a "short list", there would doubtless be a line of "balled and eager" applicants going out the door and down the street...

97 posted on 07/25/2017 9:33:01 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: bigbob

Levin, the original Never Trumper?? Dude nearly capsized his boat on that one but I’m glad he saw the light.

Nobody is one hundred percent accurate. Rush, Levin, and even Sundance but Levin has to own his ill-fated love for the titanic called Cruz.


98 posted on 07/25/2017 9:38:31 PM PDT by blackberry1
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Watch Sessions, a nice man who I greatly respect, stick it out as AG, taking the hits from Trump’s tweet storms, until Chris Christie is through being governor of New Jersey. Everybody is pandering for Giuliani to step in. Big mistake. Giuliani is a self-important person who enjoyed the spotlight, but doesn’t know how to share it. He fired an excellent police commissioner for getting too much press. Whoever is going to go after the swamp has to be ready to go to the mattresses and know how to convict and make that conviction stick. If you look into the convictions of Giuliani and Preet, they look good on paper but don’t stand up on appeal. We don’t need big headlines, we need a ruthless bastard to go after the swamp and make sure they never get out. I think it would be foolish not to trust Trump. He knows where he’s got to get to, and he’s surrounded by a whole lot of swamp in the White House right now. Rome wasn’t built in a day. It has to be overwhelming to deal with all of these government employees when you’re used to dealing with people of your choosing who want to please you. I expect to see lots of shake ups and leavings at all levels as Trump gets his own people in place. I think we’re going to enjoy watching another Lyndon Johnson twisting both sides to his will, given a little time. I don’t think Sessions has the stomach for what is to come.


99 posted on 07/25/2017 9:49:49 PM PDT by CaraMiaR (Excuse me, I have to adjust my aluminium hat.)
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To: bigbob; blackberry1; holdonnow

Hmm I think you might have forgotten to mention that Levin had some major issues with Sundance because Sundance did a couple articles that pointed out the conflict of interest with Levin and his future son-in-law working on Cruz campaign and something about Levin’s books sales...I am not sure Sundance was correct, but Levin was definitely upset about that.

Not sure what was going on with Levin during the election season, but it was weird! He even came on FR during one of his shows and was pretty shrill with some of us...

I am glad Levin (tho late to the party) decided to repeal his “I will never vote for Trump, Period” comment in September stating he would vote for Trump, and he seems to have returned to being a more objective commentator on the news...

I have recently begun listening to his program again because he does offer in-depth analysis on the Constitutionality of some of the current actions of Congress, the Supremes, etc.

BTW, I have not read where anyone here has said Sundance’s reports were poorly researched.


100 posted on 07/25/2017 9:53:54 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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