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Well, this could prove interesting. Then again, I don't have hbo or cinemax or whatever anyway.

P.S. Of course alex hailey's "roots" wasn't full of BS either. Right?

1 posted on 07/27/2017 8:59:02 AM PDT by rktman
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NON print version:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hbos-slavery-drama-confederate-faces-minefield-fundamentally-problematic-issues-1024598


2 posted on 07/27/2017 8:59:48 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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There is present-day slavery, but since it’s mainly by Muhammadans it would be dangerous to expose it.


3 posted on 07/27/2017 9:02:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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So, a film that depicts the Democrats winning the Civil War?


6 posted on 07/27/2017 9:06:25 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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“What makes the premise fundamentally problematic is that it threatens to erase the actual history,” activist and artist Bree Newsome, who made headlines in 2015 when she was arrested for removing the Confederate flag from the South Carolina statehouse, tells The Hollywood Reporter.

Lack of self-awareness?

7 posted on 07/27/2017 9:07:31 AM PDT by SSS Two
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Here is a minefield for them, they continue to make fiction designed to incite Black Criminal Violence and then their Mother and Father gets gunned down at the Quickie Mart. HA HA!


8 posted on 07/27/2017 9:07:42 AM PDT by The Toll
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an alternate history in which Africa is the dominant colonizing civilization

With what, an armada of canoes?

10 posted on 07/27/2017 9:09:56 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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What are they calling the "second civil war"?

I'm OK on the "first civil war", and the show is the lead up to the "third civil war", but I can't find an explanation of the "second civil war".

12 posted on 07/27/2017 9:13:29 AM PDT by skimbell
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HBO's Slavery Drama 'Confederate' Faces Minefield of "Fundamentally Problematic" Issues

I imagine so. If they accurately report the history, the message is not going to work out the way they prefer.

13 posted on 07/27/2017 9:13:36 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Race is the most boring topic in the world.

It’s all been done. It’s all been said. You cannot say anything new or interesting because anything which deviates from the Official Party Line will be immediately and relentlessly attacked.

Black people are noble and good and dignified.
White people are bad and consumed by greed and hatred.

YAWN


14 posted on 07/27/2017 9:15:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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>>giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution

Like laying off half your staff, cutting the wages of the other half and telling them to double their workload or they’ll be fired too?

Then giving the CEO a huge bonus for cutting costs?

That kind of modern institution?


15 posted on 07/27/2017 9:18:23 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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They should have just used Harry Turtledove’s series...


16 posted on 07/27/2017 9:18:49 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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...writer Steven Barnes, whose 2002 novel Lion’s Blood imagines an alternate history in which Africa is the dominant colonizing civilization and slaves are of European descent.

Sounds like Barnes plagiarized Robert Heinlein's novel "Farnham's Freehold" published in 1964.

"The group finds that it has not been transported to another world, but instead is in the distant future of their own world. A decadent but technologically advanced African culture keeps either uneducated or castrated whites as slaves."

17 posted on 07/27/2017 9:19:56 AM PDT by Flick Lives (#CNNblackmail)
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I don't understand the third Civil War concept, as they don't explain when and where the other two wars occurred. In this timeline it was 1861-65. The actual dates of their timeline would be nice. I'm not a fan of alternate timeline programs/movies. With what they're proposing, they might as well just do another Planet of the Apes type tv series, and leave it at that. Replace the apes with the blacks, and let the whites be their slaves. I still won't watch it. I studied the Civil War extensively for years, and I think "Gods and Generals" was the last Civil War themed movie I've watched.

On another note:

“What makes the premise fundamentally problematic is that it threatens to erase the actual history,” activist and artist Bree Newsome who made headlines in 2015 when she was arrested for removing the Confederate flag from the South Carolina statehouse..."

Well isn't that what you morons have been trying to do all along?

18 posted on 07/27/2017 9:20:46 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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imagines an alternate history in which Africa is the dominant colonizing civilization and slaves are of European descent.

That actually did happen over the period from the 8th Century through the 18th Century, as North African Muslims (the Barbary Pirates and others) conducted slave raids all along the northern Mediterranean, with around a million Europeans captured and enslaved

Now, if the Game of Thrones writers wanted to deal with REAL history, they could have a series about African Muslim slave raiders and their white slaves. But that would be too politically incorrect.

19 posted on 07/27/2017 9:26:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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After several years of the Grand Cleansing of Things Confederacy-related, it will be difficult to bring some of those things back into the minds of the Liberals and their sycophant Republican politicians they got to do much of the dirty work of cleansing in the southern states.

What if the new series inadvertantly shows the Confederate battle flag? O the horrors. That would even be worse than a chalk likeness of Donald Trump on a university campus sidewalk.


20 posted on 07/27/2017 9:33:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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“giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution.””

So the CSA is Islamic?


22 posted on 07/27/2017 9:40:04 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (.)
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It is better to be ignorant of history than to intentionally fill your head with dillusions of history.

Why knowingly pollute your perceived knowledge of true history with fictional, twisted garbage?

Any value to it?


26 posted on 07/27/2017 9:44:42 AM PDT by TheNext (RETROACTIVE REFUND & REPEAL of ACA.)
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“The series takes place in an alternate timeline, where the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution.”

More Revisionist History!

As anyone who actually studies American History know, the Civil War had nothing at all to do with Slavery!

In fact, the political and military leaders or the CSA never even considered Slavery or in almost all cases no idea that Slavery even existed.

As one CSA political leaderr said “Slavery? What is this Slavery you speak of? We have no idea what you are talking about!”

It was all about States’ Rights! The right to own property had noting at all do do with owning other human beings, but was about the Yankees not wanting th people in the South to own Alexander Stephens bobble head dolls and very coveted Nathan Bedford Forrest Pokémon Trading Card!


27 posted on 07/27/2017 9:45:00 AM PDT by Timpanagos1
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If the North and South became two separate nations, with slavery presumably abolished in the North, what would stop most of the southern slaves from escaping to the neighboring free nation, especially if the North was angry enough over secession not to return any escaped slaves and to hang anyone caught in the North trying to kidnap people back to the south.


31 posted on 07/27/2017 10:19:04 AM PDT by Cecily
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From an economic point of view, had the south won the civil war, slavery would have ended anyway. The point of slavery was economic. Slavery was the most cost effective way, at the time, of getting agricultural goods from the fields to the market. With the advent of farming machinery just around the corner there would soon be a cheaper way of harvesting than slavery and so, no economic reason to keep slaves.

In addition, who would the Confederate States trade with? The North would certainly not be a primary trading partner and most European nations of the time where were very active in their anti-slavery efforts. As such, the Confederate States would have had to put in place at least a time-line to end slavery if they wanted European trading partners.

So, at least in my opinion, the whole “What if slavery continued to exist” idea is just such hogwash.

34 posted on 07/27/2017 10:39:34 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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