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A moment that changed me: walking home through the London riots in 2011
The Guardian ^ | 4 August 2017 | Chimene Suleyman

Posted on 08/04/2017 1:58:49 AM PDT by Cronos

...I cannot remember now which friend I was texting. I began to type my dread as I started the 30-minute walk to where I was staying in Haringey. My head was down when he stepped towards me. Tall, bandana wrapped across his face, eyes only just visible, a piece of wood in hand, hood pulled high – and immediately I remembered every newspaper clipping, every headline, every whisper that he will take your phone, your handbag. I did not look at him. I simply anticipated the moment it would happen: his face against mine, flesh almost touching, how still my expression, how rigid his body, how close his breath. And he said: “Put your phone away – before somebody hurts you.”

...Even so, the London riots became known to some as an outpouring of greed, thuggery and mob destruction. Perhaps, in some cases, this was true. But erased from this narrative was a declaration on gross consumerism reserved for the wealthy, yet pushed upon the working classes who simply couldn’t afford what they have been instructed to believe is necessity. The riots occurred one year into a new government, a Conservative and Liberal Democrat coalition that made drastic cuts, as well as impending monumental rises to tuition fees. And, of course, only days before, Mark Duggan had been shot and killed by police in nearby Tottenham, an area whose history is steeped in clashes between law enforcers and the local black community

I felt fear when a man came up to me with his face masked by a bandana. But he wanted to help me stay safe – the common enemy was the police

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: globaljihad; riots
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1 posted on 08/04/2017 1:58:49 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

No where in the bible or any laws, does it say, ‘except for rioting’


2 posted on 08/04/2017 2:17:45 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (We must never shut up. Covfefe: A great dish served piping hot!)
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To: Cronos
This article reminds me of the way the local media, SJWs and even Mayor Lovely Warren tried to portray the 1964 Rochester, NY Riots as some sort of noble rebellion on the 50th anniversary of the riots in 2014.

July 64 - Rochester Remembers

I was 8 years old when those riots occurred and my family and I lived within 1 1/2 miles of the epicenter and it was a scary time! That neighborhood where it started has never recovered! Prior to the riots, it had a thriving commercial district of mainly Jewish business owners and they were targeted, looted and set on fire. The National Guard was called in to help restore order and it was the first time troops were dispatched to a Northern city since the Civil War.

The revisionists who try to portray wanton violence, looting, arson and destruction as some sort of a noble rebellion are liars and idiots!

3 posted on 08/04/2017 2:42:41 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: rochester_veteran

I expect Ferguson will never really recover either.


4 posted on 08/04/2017 2:56:47 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
I expect Ferguson will never really recover either.

You're right, FreedomPoster! Rochester has never recovered from the 1964 Riots. People fled the city in droves and moved to the suburbs. At one time, the City of Rochester had a population of 332,488, but as of the 2010 census, the population plummeted to 210,624. My family moved out as well. There's still a few nice neighborhoods, but most neighborhoods have gone ghetto.

5 posted on 08/04/2017 3:13:38 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Cronos

Oh, the silly Guardian! They took away my posting privileges years ago. Read it on the weekend when the conservatives are home from work and post comments. The layabouts post all week long.


6 posted on 08/04/2017 3:55:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

The comments are hilarious. Suddenly, radical Brits - who support every riot that happens in black America - are suddenly shaking in their boots and mad as hell at a murderous riot happening near their abodes in London. What a fatuous newspaper and readership.


7 posted on 08/04/2017 4:09:48 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: rochester_veteran

And yet we see Asbury Park recovering pretty well. Still a few lousy neighborhoods but it really is thriving. It took some brave people to move back after realizing it had a beautiful (if rundown) housing stock.


8 posted on 08/04/2017 4:11:26 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: rochester_veteran

This year marked the 50th anniversary of the Newark NJ riots, and in commemorations they refer to them as the “Newark rebellion” - going so far as to say people killed a fireman and a cop because they feared their neighborhoods were being invaded militarily.

Newark is destined to be a Third World sh!thole built around a transit hub forever as long as they defend the rioters; attempts to lure white taxpayers (suckers) back aren’t working, and the black population is just watching assorted “others” (primarily Hispanic) slowly take over the city.


9 posted on 08/04/2017 4:15:03 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: CincyRichieRich

True; the lack of remorse or guilt over theft is a direct result of removing anything Biblical from the public discourse. Not just the theft, but the out-of-wedlock breeding that created most rioters/looters...


10 posted on 08/04/2017 4:16:38 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: rochester_veteran
I was 8 years old when those riots occurred and my family and I lived within 1 1/2 miles of the epicenter and it was a scary time!

Actually, the practice for the '64 riots happened in the hot summer of 1963, when in the formerly all-white rental areas were being taken over.

As I recognize now, it was the activists who were drumming up loud block parties and revelry that was quite disturbing. I was moving into the area, and for a few months rented half a duplex on Magnolia Street, just off Genesee. A lot of loud parties heard several blocks away toward Plymouth distressed me.

By the next year, my new house was finished out in Chili, and I had joined the Gates-Chili Volunteer Fire Company #1, which hosted the full-time dispatcher's office with all the city and county fire and police radios. Because of the involvement of the city fire companies, our trucks from the immediately adjacent suburbs were called in to fill in for the city hose companies called out to quell the riots. Most of us were continually listening to the fire and police radios, and we heard things that were never reported, probably for fear of exacerbating what was already in progress. When we were to be called in to the city, we were advised by the dispatcher that when we came, to make sure we brought in every hydrant wrench we had, and that was not just for opening the hydrants, but to physically protect ourselves and our hose lines in case we had to enter the fray.

As it turned out, we did not, but the city firemen did have to use them. I don't know if you've ever seen one of those wrenches, but it had a two-foot steel pipe handle topped off with a 5-sided brass socket bigger than a good-sized man's fist.

I remember those riots well. I now live in Wilmington, DE where in 1969 the same kind of riots were fomented. One of my current friends served in the National Guard at the time, when the city was locked down under militia law for about 6 months. He was one of the Guardsmen that enforced that law, and has related his stories of the burning and looting that happened in those days.

Folks, you really don't want to have this happen, but if it does, you'd better be prepared for it, and you' better know what racism really means, especially when it is exhibited toward citizens with light-toned hides.

11 posted on 08/04/2017 4:25:10 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Cronos

Philadelphia had a riot in the early 60s
Mainly Jewish merchants were being burned out and looted
Future Police Chief and future Mayor Frank Rizzo then a captain had them under control early until ordered to Stand Down by the Politicians
Went on for about 3 days

Then came MLK’s murder
Rizzo was now police chief and Mayor Tate had the sense to give him free reign

Big Frank made the announcement
NOBODY is looting or burning this city PERIOD

And nobody did even though nationwide major cities burned


12 posted on 08/04/2017 5:17:40 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: miss marmelstein
And yet we see Asbury Park recovering pretty well. Still a few lousy neighborhoods but it really is thriving. It took some brave people to move back after realizing it had a beautiful (if rundown) housing stock.

I wish this was the case with Rochester, but a good portion of people in the city are living on government assistance. The graduation rate for the Rochester City School District was 47.5% in 2016, the worst in NYS and one of the worst in the country. What's exasperating the situation is the entitlement attitude that's prevalent among a good portion of the population in Rochester and hostility towards everyone else in the community. It's sad.

13 posted on 08/04/2017 5:21:03 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Ping.


14 posted on 08/04/2017 5:24:35 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kearnyirish2
This year marked the 50th anniversary of the Newark NJ riots, and in commemorations they refer to them as the “Newark rebellion” - going so far as to say people killed a fireman and a cop because they feared their neighborhoods were being invaded militarily.

Newark is destined to be a Third World sh!thole built around a transit hub forever as long as they defend the rioters; attempts to lure white taxpayers (suckers) back aren’t working, and the black population is just watching assorted “others” (primarily Hispanic) slowly take over the city.

The same sort of thing is happening in Rochester and there's a correlation that can be made with Newark. The City of Rochester has been run by the Democratic Party for well over 40 years and their ineptitude and corruptness is running the city into the ground and as you described, turning it into a third world sh!thole.

15 posted on 08/04/2017 5:28:10 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: rochester_veteran

Speaking of Dem-led urban corruption there are 8 candidates for Detroit mayor.

Four are convicted felons.


16 posted on 08/04/2017 5:35:30 AM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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To: Cronos

——There is no justification for rioting——

Actually, there is.

Rioting is akin to striking. Workers have no control over their destinies and build up all sorts of grievance, real and imagined. They go on strike, withhold their labor. It is the only actual power an individual posses. The strike is recognized by both business and labor unions as a popoff valve, a means to release the pressure.

A riot is similar in purpose albeit more dangerous and certainly more destructive. The riot is a social safety valve that pops off when pressures have reached an intolerable level. Imaginations have been stroked to maximum levels in past months

American cities will pop off in the next thirty days.


17 posted on 08/04/2017 5:36:52 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: imardmd1
Folks, you really don't want to have this happen, but if it does, you'd better be prepared for it, and you' better know what racism really means, especially when it is exhibited toward citizens with light-toned hides.

imardmd1, my family moved to the 19th Ward in 1968, then out to Gates, just across the Chili line off of Westside Dr. My wife and I tried to make a go of it in the 19th Ward after we got married and we fled in 1995 to North Chili, as our portion of the neighborhood went bad and we and our kids became targets because we're white. Yes, there's terrible racism that festers in the black and hispanic communities in Rochester, but city officials, the local media and of course, the SJWs are in denial about it and instead blame white people for all of their ills. To me at least, it's a hopeless situation and when I retire in a few years, I'm headed out to join my younger son, daughter in law and grandson in Colorado. I'm urging my daughter and older son to do the same and join me in moving there. Not only is Rochester a sinking ship, but New York State as well!

18 posted on 08/04/2017 5:39:57 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Cronos
But erased from this narrative was a declaration on gross consumerism reserved for the wealthy, yet pushed upon the working classes who simply couldn’t afford what they have been instructed to believe is necessity.

What a warped worldview.

The "working classes" either lack the free will to live within their means or are too stupid to make prudent decisions.

This exemplifies the soft bigotry of low expectations.

19 posted on 08/04/2017 5:43:43 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: rochester_veteran

The movie Detroit describes the riots in the film as “an uprising”. We are living in a revisionist world.


20 posted on 08/04/2017 5:43:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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