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The Curse Of Identity Politics
The American Conservative ^ | 08/13/2017 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 08/16/2017 10:12:56 AM PDT by ForYourChildren

Charlottesville is the kind of America that identity politics is calling into being. It’s time for straight talk about that.

On the Right, the story is fairly straightforward. Neo-Nazis, white nationalists, and their ilk have to be condemned in no uncertain terms, and marginalized. The president’s coy rhetoric, dancing around these people for fear of alienating them, has to end. (I don’t expect it to end, but others on the Right need to speak up to condemn him.)

It is not enough for conservative politicians and thought leaders to condemn these incidents. In their rhetoric, they need to start criticizing the principles of identity politics, across the board. They should emphasize what unites us as Americans. And this: pastors and other leaders within the church have to start teaching clearly and directly on this front. More than that, they have to recognize that racial tribalism is a strong god — a false one, but a strong one. The mild, therapeutic God that they preach, teach, and proclaim is weak in the face of it. Don’t misunderstand: I’m not talking about the actual God of the Bible. I’m talking about the way our priests, pastors, religious teachers, and families present Him to their flocks — especially their young men.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: censorship; culture; identitypolitics; leftists; racism; tolerance
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1 posted on 08/16/2017 10:12:56 AM PDT by ForYourChildren
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To: ForYourChildren

The real meat is later in the article, ex:

“But none of this will matter at all as long as the Left refuses to oppose identity politics in its own ranks. As I keep saying here, you cannot have an identity politics of the Left without calling up the same thing on the Right. Left-liberals who want conservatives to stigmatize and denounce white nationalism, but conservatives who do so will be sneered at by white nationalists as dupes and fools who advocate disarmament in the face of racist, sexist forces of the Left.”


2 posted on 08/16/2017 10:13:28 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

“When the Left indulges in rhetoric that demonizes whites — especially white males — it summons the demons of white nationalism.

When the Left punishes white males who violate its own delicate speech taboos, while tolerating the same kind of rhetoric on its own side, it summons the demons of white nationalism.”


3 posted on 08/16/2017 10:14:10 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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“When the Left obsesses over ethnic, sexual, and religious minorities, but ignores the plight of poor and working-class whites, it summons the demons of white nationalism.”


4 posted on 08/16/2017 10:14:35 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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“When the Left institutionalizes demonization of white males in college classes, in political movements, in the media and elsewhere, it summons the demons of white nationalism.”


5 posted on 08/16/2017 10:14:58 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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I am Christian, white, and a man. I am married to a woman.

The racist left has declared war on me.


6 posted on 08/16/2017 10:17:10 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: ForYourChildren
The president’s coy rhetoric, dancing around these people for fear of alienating them, has to end. (I don’t expect it to end, but others on the Right need to speak up to condemn him.)

Dreher, practitionar par excellence.

7 posted on 08/16/2017 10:19:43 AM PDT by aspasia
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it like being in prison... you are being forces to join your race gang to survive or be ever-ones bitch . that’s the core of race identity politics the kkk and nazi are race identity politics followers just like the left...

they all categorically reject the Melting Pot concept the assimilation idea they categorically reject the American motto e pluribus unum everyone must have a hyphenated category or group in their world

I reject being force it to a race gang to survive.... true Americans of all colors..... United or Die


8 posted on 08/16/2017 10:27:28 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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Identity Politics is NOT a curse, but a tool.

It has been created by American abandonment of God, however, our government has joined hands to usher its use in, in order to bring Totalitarianism in.

Except for the USA, the West is destroyed. Our nation is the last tradition standing, set to be overtaken.

Trump is the last man standing, therefore he is being crucified.


9 posted on 08/16/2017 10:27:29 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: ForYourChildren
But none of this will matter at all as long as the Left refuses to oppose identity politics in its own ranks.

The left is built on identity politics. This will never happen.

10 posted on 08/16/2017 10:30:35 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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The Left have gotten really comfortable bullying Whites, Conservatives, Christians, and Patriots.
When Obama was in office it was made patently clear that he would use the government to endorse that bullying.
The incredibly insane, monkey-poo flinging we are currently witnessing is a result of the bullies FINALLY getting punched in the nose.


11 posted on 08/16/2017 10:30:38 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: aspasia
Dreher, practitionar par excellence

Seems like Dreher is a practitioner of leftist doublespeak to me. Trump has condemned the radical rightists repeatedly. He hasn't "danced around" them at all. Trump just hasn't expressed the kind of faked outrage that the rest of the leftists, media, and the politically correct have.

What the leftists, and anti-free speech types want is for radical rightists to be denied the right to free speech. Some, like Senator Rubio have gone so far as to say violence against people expressing those unpopular ideas is acceptable.

But we either have free speech or we don't. Preserving the fundamental right of free speech is much more important than the annoyance of having to occasionally listen to someone spout stupid, repugnant ideas. If the radical left had just ignored the radical rightists in Charlottesville, then they would have had their march, a few people would have heard them, and it would have been over.

The violence never would have happened if the radical leftists hadn't decided to violently counter protest. And a young woman, who probably didn't support violence from either side wouldn't have lost her life.

Attacking Trump's statements based on false representations of what he said isn't something to admire.

12 posted on 08/16/2017 10:32:47 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: RitaOK

Identity Politics is NOT a curse, but a tool.

It has been created by American abandonment of God, however, our government has joined hands to usher its use in, in order to bring Totalitarianism in.

Except for the USA, the West is destroyed. Our nation is the last tradition standing, set to be overtaken.

Trump is the last man standing, therefore he is being crucified.


Very good!


13 posted on 08/16/2017 10:38:11 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

I wish I was Japanese.


14 posted on 08/16/2017 10:43:10 AM PDT by brianr10
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To: ForYourChildren

Pretty much all nonsense.

When you punish white males because you made up “crimes” they do not commit, you just piss them off.
It has NOTHING to do with white supremicism, white nationalism or racism or nazism nor any of the myriad other labels you are trying to use.

You will not do the me and others that which you claimed to dercry when you perceived it happening to you. You will not tell whites they can’t come to your orientations nor any other of the slights and separatist nonsense you want to employ. Eff you.
If we are not equal, then its a fight until we are. And it is a fight that we will win. It has NOTHING to do with being better than you like you keep wanting to say with no basis in fact.
SCREW your labels.


15 posted on 08/16/2017 10:43:48 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: ForYourChildren

Well, when their whole world view is built on the notion of putting people into categories, how smart do you have to be to realize there will inevitably be a box called “white males”? or “white females” for that matter.


16 posted on 08/16/2017 10:53:47 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: freeandfreezing
What you said!

What the leftists, and anti-free speech types want is for radical rightists to be denied the right to free speech.

And short of that, moral pontification from our elected leaders--or be ostracized.

17 posted on 08/16/2017 10:55:40 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: ForYourChildren

Yes - it’s impossible to disarm the right-wing white nationalists (who i don’t consider to be conservative in any meaningful sense of the word), when doing so is going to feel like unilateral disarmament to them in the face of organized identity politics on the left.


18 posted on 08/16/2017 11:53:39 AM PDT by socalgop
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To: ForYourChildren

I stopped reading the article when the author said we should condemn Trump. Not happening in my little corner of the world where everyone supports him.


19 posted on 08/16/2017 11:57:12 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (The question about fighting back is not what average people can to do, but how to do we do it?)
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I’m a white, straight, conservative female, raised Roman Catholic with traditional values, and they have declared war on me too.


20 posted on 08/16/2017 11:59:37 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (The question about fighting back is not what average people can to do, but how to do we do it?)
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