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10 missing after USS John McCain collides with merchant ship; search underway
ABC NEWS ^ | August 20, 2017 | LUCIEN BRUGGEMAN

Posted on 08/20/2017 6:35:30 PM PDT by Enchante

A Navy guided-missile destroyer, the USS John S. McCain, collided with a commercial vessel east of Singapore early Monday morning local time, the Navy said.

There were 10 sailors missing and five injured, the Navy said.

The collision with the merchant ship Alnic MC occurred east of the Straits of Malacca and Singapore at 6:24 a.m. Japan Standard Time, as the McCain was on its way for a routine port visit in Singapore, the Navy said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: accident; maritime; military; missing; navy; sailors; searchworks; toomanygirls; usnavy; ussjohnmccain
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To: TXnMA; blueunicorn6; Presbyterian Reporter; UCANSEE2; mad_as_he$$

I admit I can barely read these things without feeling my blood pressure rise.

Accidents happen. But having two of these occur within such a short time frame is shameful, and indicative of a cancer within the service I did not even want to admit to myself. But there it is.

I will wait until I see more facts and can read more about it. But this should never happen.

Shameful.


421 posted on 08/21/2017 2:12:56 PM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: FoxInSocks

That was his brother and his cousins were in the Army, air force and coast guard.


422 posted on 08/21/2017 2:14:48 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: FoxInSocks

“I always thought Schmuckatelli was a private in the Marine Corps.”

That guy got around.


423 posted on 08/21/2017 2:15:21 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime "humanity.)
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To: rlmorel

I am absolutely heart..... well pissed off and heartsick for the families. The Navy really needs to get...oh never mind. Rant off.


424 posted on 08/21/2017 2:18:53 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: rlmorel
I've been wondering what sort of sea state or onboard condition would place a destroyer -- crossing (or directly across) the path of a plodding tanker -- at a (destroyer's) speed so slow, it would appear that it was dead in the water...

Is there nothing (even VHF or aimed spotlights) that could be used to warn the larger vessel to take avoidance action?

OTOH, based on the apparent extreme slow speed of impact -- could the tanker have already been "all astern" in an attempt to stop?

425 posted on 08/21/2017 2:44:14 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Treat George P. Bush like Santa Ana at San Jacinto!!!)
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To: TXnMA

I think I had a better pump on a hot tub. Not much water coming out of that hose. In fact, the spurt - spurt - spurt looks almost like a hand pump.


426 posted on 08/21/2017 3:15:03 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: TXnMA

One thing I don’t get (statistically speaking): if these big civilian ships are hitting US Navy destroyers so damned easily, are there a lot more collisions happening now between civilian ships??? Because there are thousands upon thousands of merchant vessels all over the place, not to mention countless other civilian craft, whereas we have only 64 of the Arleigh Burke destroyers and most of them are not in crowded sea lanes (or even at sea) at any particular moment.

It would seem that there should be a lot more collisions happening civilian-civilian compared with civilian-destroyer, over any significant time period.


427 posted on 08/21/2017 3:19:05 PM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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To: TXnMA

The destroyer would have been headed more or less southbound if it was in the Straits of Malacca off of Johor state inbound for Singapore. Where did you find that it was heading north. It shouldn’t have made a turn to the north until it was in the Singapore Strait.

On the other hand, if it was outbound from Jahor city, the other ship would have been moving Westbound (if out of Singapore, it would have been on a reciprocal course to the destroyer, and the ships should have passed port to port.

So the only thing that doesn’t fit is your info that the destroyer was northbound at the time. You might want to verify that source.


428 posted on 08/21/2017 3:31:45 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: JohnBrowdie
"I can only assume that the obama regime with toady mabus as SecNav decimated the officer corp."

I absolutely believe that statement to be a true fact.!! Obama was and is a traitor to our country and is trying to do as much damage to this nation as he possibly can... I also believe he and his cohorts were involved in the riots at Charlottesville....

All of America has become just like that missile boat... Lots of radars, GPS'S and eyes everywhere to see with... And we act like we're as blind as a bat..!!

429 posted on 08/21/2017 4:18:39 PM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: unread

“”All of America has become just like that missile boat... Lots of radars, GPS’S and eyes everywhere to see with... And we act like we’re as blind as a bat..!!””


I totally agree. As I have posted elsewhere too many people cannot drive around the block unless their ‘smartphone’ tells them to make a right turn at each corner.


430 posted on 08/21/2017 5:15:40 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Enchante
Just saw the story.

Has anybody blamed Senator McCain for the collision yet?

431 posted on 08/21/2017 5:17:06 PM PDT by x
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To: x

Aye


432 posted on 08/21/2017 5:21:52 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: apocalypto

No. Named after his grandfather. WW2 Admiral.


433 posted on 08/21/2017 5:33:33 PM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: Enchante

Queers on the bridge purposely wrecking the ship because deviant transvestites can’t be in Trump’s Navy


434 posted on 08/21/2017 5:40:13 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (Democrat calls for kumbaya must be met with their blood on the ground)
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To: madison10

So we’ve had crashes involving ships named for the middle name of a PT boat driver (famous for getting his ship run over by a Jap destroyer) and pilot (famous for losing his planes.) Maybe we should be less diverse and just name ships after winners.


435 posted on 08/21/2017 6:40:57 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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To: TXnMA
An estimate made by someone on the internet. Going off http://www.trbas.com/media/media/acrobat/2017-08/70316349680760-17151358.pdf

At 230º It looks to me like Fitzgerald was proceeding along the outbound Traffic Separation Lane and left it by cutting across the inbound lane.

Change of more than 100 would take it back into Tokyo Bay, Less, and Crystal would have split Fitzgerald from stem to stern.

So 100 sounds reasonable

436 posted on 08/21/2017 6:44:31 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Winter is coming)
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To: PAR35

Thanks! Obviously I need to study the local geography closer, in more detail.


437 posted on 08/21/2017 6:49:41 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Treat George P. Bush like Santa Ana at San Jacinto!!!)
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To: Mariner

Is there any consolation in the fact that whatever about their seamanship the crew’s damage control skills seem to be top notch?

I realise that being able to fix up a hole in a ship is not as useful as not putting a hole there in the first place, but to this landlubber’s eye one might expect a ship with that size of gaping hole in its side to be resting on the sea bed in minutes.

Or is this largely due to good design and shipbuilding?


438 posted on 08/21/2017 7:14:23 PM PDT by Postman Pat
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To: Enchante
You're right! Even on inland lakes, overpopulated with twice-a-year boaters zooming around on Memorial and Labor Days -- many of them drunk -- you very seldom hear of boat collisions.

And that is true -- even though many are looking backward while towing skiers -- or are running at speeds that would leave a destroyer in the dust...

I agree: these numbers simply don't make sense!

439 posted on 08/21/2017 7:45:22 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Treat George P. Bush like Santa Ana at San Jacinto!!!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Excellent point. We should not have any ship with the names McCain, Fitzgerald, Kennedy, Clinton.....


440 posted on 08/21/2017 7:48:05 PM PDT by Enchante (Searching throughout the country for one honest Democrat....)
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