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Obama's Kenyan ancestors sold slaves
A conservative lesbian.com ^ | July 13, 2009 | Cynthia Ayockey

Posted on 08/21/2017 8:03:24 PM PDT by plain talk

... on both his mother’s AND his father’s side of the family, Obama is descended from people who owned and/or sold black African slaves. How ironic that Obama received almost universal support from blacks who are here because their ancestors were grabbed up and sold into slavery by other black Africans, including Obama’s father’s tribe.

Not surprisingly, when this issue first came up from a story published in the Baltimore Sun on March 2, 2007, quoted here by Sweetness and Light, which only looked into Obama’s mother’s family, the media demonized Obama’s mother’s side of the family for apparently owning slaves. Frankly, I think the more important story is finding out what role Obama’s tribe and family had in grabbing up whoever was handy and selling them into slavery in the first place.

In the 18th century, Muslim slavers moved into the interior of Kenya for the purpose of exploiting blood rivalries between local tribes. Muslims encouraged warring tribes, Obama Jr’s Luo ancestors included, to capture “prisoners of war” and sell them into slavery.

Kenya tribe leaders, also exported slaves and ivory that had been exchanged by Africans from the interior for salt, cloth, beads, and metal goods. The slaves were then marched to the coast and shipped to Muslim Zanzibar (an island South of Kenya), to be traded again.

The abolition of slavery itself would hardly have been possible. From a Muslim point of view, to forbid what God permits is almost as great an offense as to permit what God forbids — and slavery was authorized and regulated by the holy law.

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This is an excellent old-old article from 2009 I stumbled onto via a google search. The web site seems strange but I must say there is a lot of interesting detail. Not as much about Obama as it is about slavery in general - particularly muslim slavery.

I posted this link recently in another thread and thought it might be worthy of its own thread.

1 posted on 08/21/2017 8:03:24 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

In order to sell them, first they must have owned them. How did they come to own them? Either they bought them or they rounded them up.


2 posted on 08/21/2017 8:05:59 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: plain talk

I guess we can’t name anything after Obama then, right..?


3 posted on 08/21/2017 8:07:16 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: plain talk
Oops. I guess if I read the article before posting a comment (there's a first time for everything) I would've seen my question was answered before I aksed it. Carry on.

In the 18th century, Muslim slavers moved into the interior of Kenya for the purpose of exploiting blood rivalries between local tribes. Muslims encouraged warring tribes, Obama Jr’s Luo ancestors included, to capture “prisoners of war” and sell them into slavery.

4 posted on 08/21/2017 8:08:02 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: plain talk

Hmm. Any Obama statues around?


5 posted on 08/21/2017 8:08:48 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Charles Martel
Yeah, remember this one?


6 posted on 08/21/2017 8:12:09 PM PDT by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: plain talk

I don’t like the “your ancestors had slaves” articles because they feed into the narrative of collective guilt. That’s how you get permission to engage in collective punishment.

When Victimhood Leads to Genocide - Prof. Jordan Peterson on Dekulakization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeYRK16PIlA


7 posted on 08/21/2017 8:17:35 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: plain talk

Obama tried to enslave us all.


8 posted on 08/21/2017 8:19:53 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: plain talk

Obama still sucks!


9 posted on 08/21/2017 8:28:33 PM PDT by W. (What's crackin', bitch? Har!)
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To: plain talk

Thanks for posting!

Saw that earlier tonight on the Anderson Cooper thread and I’d already started too many threads today! Was worthy of reposting though. Good info!


10 posted on 08/21/2017 8:49:06 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: fhayek

....I guess we can’t name anything after Obama then, right...

Goodbye Obama Presidential Library and Choom Room.


11 posted on 08/21/2017 8:50:32 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: plain talk

My 3rd great-grandfather owned some slaves in Tennessee. I would have told him how horrible that was, except I wasn’t born until ninety-two years after the old man died. He’s dead, the slaves are dead, and neither I nor anyone I am aware of in my family since then received any benefit out of slavery. The first several generations after the war, they were all pretty much dirt poor. I am not proud of what he did, but I have never lost a wink of sleep over it either. It is what it is . It you dig deeply into anyone’s family history, you’ll find plenty of people who did lots of interesting things.


12 posted on 08/21/2017 9:11:42 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Sasparilla

“Goodbye Obama Presidential Library and Choom Room.”

You can use a porta potty for everything of value that Obola has! Plus it will have the proper “aroma” for what little is housed there.


13 posted on 08/21/2017 9:38:33 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Texas Eagle

same way as US, Mexico, Central and South America Indians did- they hunted and captured them as spoils of war, or claimed a tribe or family debt was owed. The Mayans and Aztecs had full-time armies. Some detachments were focused on people hunting, exactly the same as what was going on in the African continent:

Regarding indigenous pre-Atlantic contact with Africa:

“... indigenous slavery was more common in countries closer to the Equator, in West Africa and specifically in the West-Central African Belgian colonies (present-day Rwanda, Burundi and the Congo Democratic Republic). There is also weak evidence that it was more prevalent among societies with more developed states and in those that had written records. We find no clear impact of Islam or of export slavery on the prevalence of indigenous slavery, despite frequent debates on these issues in the literature.

...3 There is early pre-colonial evidence of slavery among the Berbers of Morocco and Algeria, the Tuaregs of the Sahara, the Ethiopeans, Egyptians and Somalis of northeast Africa, the Buhganda states and Nyamwezi and Chagga peoples of inland East Africa, the Mrima and Omani Arabs of coastal East Africa, the Wolof of Senegal and the Gambia, the Mende and Temne of Sierra Leone, the via of Liberia, the Duala of Cameroon, the Bakongo nd Luande of Congo, the Lozi of Zambia and, as Perbi (2001:2) notes, ‘virtually al the states and societies in Guinea, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Dahomey, Mali, Nigeria, etc.’ 4 This is not to suggest that export slavery started with the Atlantic slave trades. African slaves were acquired by the ancients Egyptians, the Greeks and the Romans and by mediaeval Europe, Arabia, the Ottoman Empire, and Asia. From the 1435 capture by the Ottomans of Constantinople which halted the flow of white slaves from the Black Sea regions and Balkans, mediaeval Europe turned completely to Africa for its slave labour (Perbi, 2001:3; Mc Kay et al, 1992). In modern times, export slavery was towards the Oriental, Islamic and, especially, Atlantic worlds during the 15th to 19th centuries (Perbi, 2001:4).

http://www.csae.ox.ac.uk/conferences/2009-EdiA/papers/095-Lensink.pdf

“In Pre-Columbian Mesoamerica the most common forms of slavery were those of prisoners of war and debtors...Most victims of human sacrifice were prisoners of war or slaves.[5]
...The Haida, Nuu-chah-nulth, Tlingit, Coast Tsimshian and some other tribes who lived along the Pacific Northwest Coast were traditionally known as fierce warriors and slave-traders....Among some Pacific Northwest tribes about a quarter of the population were slaves.[7][8][9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_among_the_indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas


14 posted on 08/21/2017 9:48:45 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: plain talk

Obama’s white ancestors in Maryland, the Duvalls, had lots of slaves and no doubt transacted. My ancestors too. Bamarama is like a 10 th cousin, God help me


15 posted on 08/21/2017 9:53:29 PM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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If he’s the son of Malcolm and a Lebanese actress, he doesn’t have any white ancestors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8&list=PLwDnebP1khQxZPHIMbQB1ZMDCCPoy8T9f&index=3


16 posted on 08/21/2017 10:14:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: tbw2
I don’t like the “your ancestors had slaves” articles...

The point of this article is the same as the point you are making. The article is trying to show that slavery was spread worldwide in the past; therefore, everyone's ancestors participated in slave trading/ownership (and also in being enslaved). If everyone is guilty, then no one is guilty.

That is: Everyone except me, of course. My ancestors didn't own slaves:)

17 posted on 08/21/2017 10:28:56 PM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: tbw2

Kenya remains a source of slavery today. Obama’s family is neck deep in the slave trade.


18 posted on 08/22/2017 2:33:25 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: Slyfox

Never noticed he ever wore an American flag lapel pin.


19 posted on 08/22/2017 2:53:07 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia (#DrainTheSwamp #HeFights)
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To: plain talk

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/7242791/Barack-Obama-statue-removed-from-Jakarta-park-after-protests.html


20 posted on 08/22/2017 3:13:49 AM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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