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Is someone hacking our 7th Fleet? Navy to investigate after USS John S McCain collision
Fox News ^ | 22 Aug 2017 | Edmund DeMarche

Posted on 08/22/2017 7:33:05 AM PDT by mandaladon

A top U.S. Navy admiral on Monday called for a swift and thorough investigation into Monday's collision of the USS John S. McCain into an oil tanker near Singapore -- marking the second deadly mishap that occurred in the Pacific in the past three months.

"Some remains" of the sailors who were declared missing after the collision were found in a sealed compartment aboard the destroyer on Tuesday. Meanwhile, Malaysian officials said they found one body, but were still in the process of identifying it.

Adm. John Richardson ordered an operational pause in all the fleets around the world while the Navy works to determine the factors behind the collision. Richardson tweeted that the Navy will conduct a wide investigation, including a review into the possibility of "cyber intrusion or sabotage."

Adm. Phil Davidson, the head of the Navy's Fleet Forces, will lead the investigation.

Richardson made clear that there is no evidence of a hacking at this point, but some cyber experts have raised to possiblity given the location of the warships.

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Jeff Stutzman, an ex-information warfare specialist in the Navy who works at a cyber threat intelligence company, told McClatchy that “there’s something more than just human error going on."~~~~~~~~~Agree
1 posted on 08/22/2017 7:33:05 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Taking a page out of Hillary’s well-worn book, Excuses for Failure, the US Navy is going to blame hackers instead of incompetence.


2 posted on 08/22/2017 7:34:58 AM PDT by txrefugee (.)
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To: mandaladon

If it’s true you think the Navy will disclose it?


3 posted on 08/22/2017 7:35:13 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: mandaladon

Ahh...someone is hacking the Navy’s training, leadership and attention to detail and to duty.


4 posted on 08/22/2017 7:37:55 AM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.')
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To: mandaladon; All

Gee, ya think? Furthermore, so the guys on visual watch, the guys on navigation, the guys on radar never saw this coming? Captain Abdul-The-Camel-Jockey from Syria could have prevented this fiasco.


5 posted on 08/22/2017 7:39:02 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: mandaladon

Knowing Hitlery, she probably “sold” the access codes for a “donation” to the Clinton Foundation....NOTHING about that creature would surprise me....nothing.


6 posted on 08/22/2017 7:39:22 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: txrefugee

Diversity, affirmative action, sensitivity training are the best hacks there are.


7 posted on 08/22/2017 7:39:35 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34
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To: mandaladon

One would think that as a contemporary warship of the United States Navy we would be aware of every ship, boat, dinghy, canoe, kayak, paddleboard, surfboard, swimmer, airplane, drone, and seagull within one hundred miles of our technically-advanced fleet.

8 posted on 08/22/2017 7:42:10 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: mandaladon

The Russians again - and now they are triangulating their signals off America’s Confederate statues!!


9 posted on 08/22/2017 7:42:28 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: mandaladon

We already know where the hacker came from. Kenya.


10 posted on 08/22/2017 7:43:06 AM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL - F*** A Bunch Of Liberals)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

It doesn’tayyer whether they disclose or or not’ as long as it’s dealt with swiftly, and eliminated. I don’t believe for a minute that these men are that incompetent. Something’s wrong.


11 posted on 08/22/2017 7:43:07 AM PDT by PrairieLady2 (The)
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To: PGR88

Haha….good one!


12 posted on 08/22/2017 7:43:43 AM PDT by txrefugee (.)
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To: mandaladon; Travis McGee

Bingo.....


13 posted on 08/22/2017 7:44:23 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: mandaladon

Eyeballs cannot be hacked. Who or what was on watch?


14 posted on 08/22/2017 7:45:19 AM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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To: mandaladon

Perhaps if sailors were trained more in good seamanship and less in “gender-diversity”, there wouldn’t be so many mishaps.


15 posted on 08/22/2017 7:45:49 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: mandaladon

When I was in the Navy, we safely operated nuclear propulsion plants by relying on the human mind over the technology. Now the technology is “trusted” more than the humans. If technology is to blame, then the human error is in the planners, designers, and leaders of the modern Navy.

Since leaving the Navy in 1988, I have spent the 29 years working in industrial automation as a tech, programmer, and manager; so I know what I’m talking about. We take decision making away from the humans to achieve faster and more consistent operations, but when something happens that is outside of the machine’s ability to react, no one is there as a knowledgeable backstop. Bad things happen and then we want to know how this got past the logic, the we demand more logic and more sensors for this particular event that has only happened once or twice. Or, we just blame the failure on “hacking” now.

I believe that the real error is in the capabilities of the Millennials who are on the bridge of these ships at night. No attention to detail. Little respect for authority. Short attention spans.


16 posted on 08/22/2017 7:45:49 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: mandaladon

Navigation computers that Obama bought from China ,LOL


17 posted on 08/22/2017 7:48:12 AM PDT by butlerweave (it's the children are)
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To: Cobra64

My theory, as a licensed captain for the past 40 years, is that their are too many people on the bridge and in the operations command chain and they become a distraction. On commercial vessels the captain is the steersman, throttle man, navigator and radar observer. He also is the sole lookout, operates the radio and has responsibility for all actions of his crew.

On a typical navel vessel their are 6 to 10 people performing the same task and reporting up the chain to a commander who makes decisions down through the chain. What could possibly go wrong?

I operated many types of oilfield support vessels in all weather and high traffic areas. You must have a comprehensive situational awareness and be able to react to unusual situations in seconds. My opinion is that reaction time and judgement is compromised through the military mind set.


18 posted on 08/22/2017 7:49:55 AM PDT by River_Wrangler (Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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To: txrefugee

Please forget the idea of hacking. The Admiral just said they are looking at all possibilities. Typical media question and the only reasonable answer. It was intended to add confusion and additional interest. This is all due to human error. Take it from one who has navigated all these waters as a Naval Officer and former XO.


19 posted on 08/22/2017 7:52:45 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: PrairieLady2

“Men”. Right. Once the Navy was a force comprised of Men. At that time any ship doing nothing more than sailing along, hitting or being hit by another, had one cause and one cause only: Failure on the part of the men manning the ship. Period. That so many are making excuses involving hacking and such tells you all you need to know about our Culture today. Men have and take responsability. A force of PC compliant, deviant, delusional persons AIN’T MEN.


20 posted on 08/22/2017 7:52:54 AM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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