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Jeff Stutzman, an ex-information warfare specialist in the Navy who works at a cyber threat intelligence company, told McClatchy that “there’s something more than just human error going on."~~~~~~~~~Agree
1 posted on 08/22/2017 7:33:05 AM PDT by mandaladon
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Taking a page out of Hillary’s well-worn book, Excuses for Failure, the US Navy is going to blame hackers instead of incompetence.


2 posted on 08/22/2017 7:34:58 AM PDT by txrefugee (.)
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To: mandaladon

If it’s true you think the Navy will disclose it?


3 posted on 08/22/2017 7:35:13 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: mandaladon

Ahh...someone is hacking the Navy’s training, leadership and attention to detail and to duty.


4 posted on 08/22/2017 7:37:55 AM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.')
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Gee, ya think? Furthermore, so the guys on visual watch, the guys on navigation, the guys on radar never saw this coming? Captain Abdul-The-Camel-Jockey from Syria could have prevented this fiasco.


5 posted on 08/22/2017 7:39:02 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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Knowing Hitlery, she probably “sold” the access codes for a “donation” to the Clinton Foundation....NOTHING about that creature would surprise me....nothing.


6 posted on 08/22/2017 7:39:22 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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One would think that as a contemporary warship of the United States Navy we would be aware of every ship, boat, dinghy, canoe, kayak, paddleboard, surfboard, swimmer, airplane, drone, and seagull within one hundred miles of our technically-advanced fleet.

8 posted on 08/22/2017 7:42:10 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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The Russians again - and now they are triangulating their signals off America’s Confederate statues!!


9 posted on 08/22/2017 7:42:28 AM PDT by PGR88
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We already know where the hacker came from. Kenya.


10 posted on 08/22/2017 7:43:06 AM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL - F*** A Bunch Of Liberals)
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Bingo.....


13 posted on 08/22/2017 7:44:23 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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Eyeballs cannot be hacked. Who or what was on watch?


14 posted on 08/22/2017 7:45:19 AM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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Perhaps if sailors were trained more in good seamanship and less in “gender-diversity”, there wouldn’t be so many mishaps.


15 posted on 08/22/2017 7:45:49 AM PDT by Signalman
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When I was in the Navy, we safely operated nuclear propulsion plants by relying on the human mind over the technology. Now the technology is “trusted” more than the humans. If technology is to blame, then the human error is in the planners, designers, and leaders of the modern Navy.

Since leaving the Navy in 1988, I have spent the 29 years working in industrial automation as a tech, programmer, and manager; so I know what I’m talking about. We take decision making away from the humans to achieve faster and more consistent operations, but when something happens that is outside of the machine’s ability to react, no one is there as a knowledgeable backstop. Bad things happen and then we want to know how this got past the logic, the we demand more logic and more sensors for this particular event that has only happened once or twice. Or, we just blame the failure on “hacking” now.

I believe that the real error is in the capabilities of the Millennials who are on the bridge of these ships at night. No attention to detail. Little respect for authority. Short attention spans.


16 posted on 08/22/2017 7:45:49 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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Navigation computers that Obama bought from China ,LOL


17 posted on 08/22/2017 7:48:12 AM PDT by butlerweave (it's the children are)
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Jeff Stutzman, an ex-information warfare specialist in the Navy who works at a cyber threat intelligence company, told McClatchy that “there’s something more than just human error going on."~~~~~~~~~Agree

this could be the oceanic version of the automobile/truck massacres we've been seeing staged around the world lately. the ememy is low tech.

22 posted on 08/22/2017 7:55:00 AM PDT by thinden
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The first time the Navy had a stand down with US Navy Ships was in November 1989. There were a lot more naval accidents then, versus now.

There was no hacking then. Nor is there now.

Poor Seamanship/leadership then and now!

48-HOUR STOPPAGE PLANNED BY NAVY
By STEPHEN ENGELBERG, Special to The New York Times
Published: November 15, 1989

WASHINGTON, Nov. 14— After a succession of accidents around the world, the Navy announced today that it was suspending routine operations for 48 hours to review safety procedures with each sailor and aviator.

It was the first time the Navy has taken such a step, officials said, and it reflected the mounting concern over the deaths and injuries sustained by both Navy personnel and civilians in the accidents in the past three weeks.

Navy officials said that the suspension would only affect routine operations and training exercises and that essential military functions, like ship movements in the Persian Gulf and drug interdiction efforts, would not be stopped. All deployed ships, submarines and aircraft would still be available for emergency operations, the officials said. Two More Accidents.

The safety review was ordered early this morning before word was received about a fire today aboard the Inchon, an amphibious assault ship undergoing maintenance in Norfolk, Va. The blaze injured 31 sailors and 8 civilians. The Navy said one sailor was in guarded condition and another was in serious condition.

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/15/us/48-hour-stoppage-planned-by-navy.html?mcubz=0


24 posted on 08/22/2017 7:59:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Voting for Trump to be our President, made 62+ million of us into Dumb Deplorable Racists, Nah!!)
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The Mark of Cain is on McCain?


27 posted on 08/22/2017 8:09:06 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (FUMSM)
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Navy Does Not Rule Out Intentional Act in Latest Warship Collision
China calls Navy ‘hazard’ in Asian waters

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/cno-does-not-rule-out-intentional-act-latest-warship-collision/

I have a difficult time believing the excuse, that China did it. Sounds like the Hillary excuse that Russia did it.

But I do believe that this is the answer, that no one was minding the store:

“The Navy traditionally adopts a strict policy of accountability for all ship mishaps.

On Friday, the two senior officers on the Fitzgerald were relieved of duty, and about a dozen other sailors who were on watch the night of the collision were punished.”

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/cno-does-not-rule-out-intentional-act-latest-warship-collision/


28 posted on 08/22/2017 8:12:09 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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The McCain was “T-boned” forward mid ship starboard side. Those early reports claiming the McCain caused the incident demonstrate where the media is comming from, Why it was directly in the path of that container ship set course is what has to be determined.


29 posted on 08/22/2017 8:13:28 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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If you were an officer the past 8 years that enjoyed creating Power Point presentations on gender neutral bathrooms and sexual harassment, you got promoted.

If you believed being an officer in the surface fleet involved navigating ships, you left in disgust.

30 posted on 08/22/2017 8:14:51 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Idiot traitor nobama “hacked” the military in many ways: PC BS, LGBTQ lunacy, affirmative-action and feminist favoritism are some.


34 posted on 08/22/2017 8:25:31 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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