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Trump’s ‘America First’ Base Unhappy with Flip-Flop Afghanistan Speech
Breitbart ^ | Aug 21st | Adam Shaw

Posted on 08/22/2017 8:21:40 AM PDT by The Numbers

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To: Fantasywriter

“And Bannon’s 24-7 drumbeat of criticism rolls on”

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Bannon is brilliant with great ideas, but his personality and people skills? Now I can see why he might have been a negative force in the WH.


41 posted on 08/22/2017 9:11:10 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: nikos1121

He campaigned on this and said he’d continue the war in Afghanistan due to it’s geographical location to Pakistan.

I mean if you have to reach back five years for a tweet yet ignore what the man actually ran on last year as a candidate then you’re not really interested in POTUS succeeding.

It’s okay to be against this policy, but people need to stop saying it’s a flip flop and he lied and ran on ending the battle in Afghanistan. That’s just not true.

And to fight and stay means to do what is needed; adding more troops.
Again be against it all you want but it’s not a flip flop.


42 posted on 08/22/2017 9:16:03 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

That is very insightful. When Bannon is on point he’s amazing—a force to be reckoned with. But as you said, he gets on point when he’s spearheading a big idea. When people skills are needed...there’s a fly in the ointment.


43 posted on 08/22/2017 9:23:40 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: snarkytart

I don’t see it as a flip flop. Slightly disappointed because my knee jerk solution is to leave Afghanistan, but I understand that Trump is making an informed decision based on facts on the ground and by listening to the military, not the politicians.


44 posted on 08/22/2017 9:26:55 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

I’m more angry and the RINOs who support this but won’t support repealing Obamacare and funding the wall, and border control is just as important as anything in the fight against terrorism. They are the real hypocrites.


45 posted on 08/22/2017 9:30:33 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: SanchoP

I actually saw someone on one of the talk shows last night voice my thoughts. How are we gonna fight a different war there with the same people in charge (the generals) that have been fighting it for 16 years?
I say bomb them all to the Stone Age, wouldn’t take much, and move out with a warning that we’ll do it again. This on the ground bs needs to end. And we’ve seen such great results from training them to fight their own wars. Yeah, that was sarcasm.
I don’t care how he ‘wraps it up’ I don’t like it.


46 posted on 08/22/2017 9:34:47 AM PDT by sheana
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To: elpadre

Thanks El Padre...


47 posted on 08/22/2017 9:34:53 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: The Numbers
confirmed the fears of many on the right that without a strong nationalist voice in the West Wing, the President would revert to the same old fare that Americans had voted to reject in November.
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BINGO!

48 posted on 08/22/2017 9:41:36 AM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: snarkytart

Just go read my post I have already been through this with another freeper.


49 posted on 08/22/2017 9:41:57 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Thank you Free Republic. Thank you President Donald J Trump)
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To: sailor76

ET TU TRUMP!?


50 posted on 08/22/2017 9:45:46 AM PDT by sailor76 (ET TU TRUMP!?)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
"Everyone knows this is a flip flop by Trump but you...now you know"

You don't know me, so don't assume what I think or know. And you still can't provide me with an exact quote where Trump promised to bring the troops home from Afghanistan.

51 posted on 08/22/2017 9:56:04 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: The Numbers

Lots of folks upset that reality bites. The clean break they want would turn Afghanistan over to Iran and Pakistan and install a whole new terrorist regime. Glad the President is listening to his National Security Advisers and the Generals.


52 posted on 08/22/2017 10:04:09 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: The Numbers

Breitbart is making way too much of this speech. Trump did just fine. STFU.


53 posted on 08/22/2017 10:13:05 AM PDT by montag813 (ue)
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To: The Numbers

At this point, what does victory look like, what national interest are we pursuing, and do we have a coherent, realistic plan to achieve it? If not, President Trump just made the wrong decision. What’s worse than war is a no-win war.


54 posted on 08/22/2017 10:30:15 AM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: sheana

Afghanistan is “too big to fail”. Watch for this phrase. It means the DC oligarchs are out to steal from the US taxpayer.


55 posted on 08/22/2017 10:40:09 AM PDT by SanchoP
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To: The Numbers

They will go the way of Drudge if they overdose on their “nudging” platform. The Nudge can quickly become tyrannical.

Does Breitbart think their agenda stands any chance of a future without Trump? Pence? Ryan? McConnell? Romney?


56 posted on 08/22/2017 11:13:20 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: The Numbers

#War


57 posted on 08/22/2017 1:32:42 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: The Numbers

I actually agree with Bannon’s plan for Afghanistan. The modern U.S. army with 6 month deployments is not equip to be an effective police force, and that is what is required to control and hold territory in Afghanistan.

An army like we have now can win battles and take territory but unless they stick around full time they can’t defeat an insurgency which requires permanent on the ground presence with local knowledge acquired over time about the enemy.

For an insurgency is made of locals whom you come to know, and identify on the streets when they are not planting bombs. They need to be arrested and put in jail or killed one by one, a process that could take decades, and requires propaganda to humiliate and discourage their recruitment efforts. Things the U.S. army is functionally incapable of doing.


58 posted on 08/22/2017 10:16:52 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Hojczyk

Trump killed General Obama’s disastorous ROE’s that gave an advantage to our Enemies and put our Soldiers in more danger.

I don’t know what President Trump will be able to get done while in Office, but the most important reason is him single handidly saving Generations of American Citizens from the ravages of a Liberal Supreme Court.

His being Elected may well have rescued the First and Second Amendments from being completely decimated.

His Election was too late to save States Rights once Obama and his Liberal SCOTUS buddies sanctified Gay Marriage as a Federal issue. It was clearly a State Issue, but that ship has sailed.

One other point, if any other Republican had been the Nominee, The Butcheress of Benghazi would be sitting in the Oval Office today and the Republic would have ceased to exist by the time her reign if terror ended in eight years.

I say this as a former Cruzer BTW. if Ted had made the cut in the Primary he would have been slaughtered in the General. Of this I have absolutely no doubt.

President Trump may well do things many of us do not like, but it certainly beats what his adversary who would have done while in Office. I count our blessings every day.


59 posted on 08/22/2017 10:37:05 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative ( THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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