Skip to comments.In Afghanistan: Enough (K WIlliamson finds another way to hate)
Posted on 08/23/2017 4:21:32 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus
What is it we are doing in Afghanistan? What do we think we are doing in Afghanistan? All we can say with any confidence is that the former and the latter bear only a theoretical relationship. The United States invaded Afghanistan in 2001 in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks of September 11. Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and many of his associates were thought to be holed up there under the protection and the patronage of the Taliban, the jihadist militia cum narcotics syndicate that controlled Afghanistan at the time. U.S. forces marched in, toppled the Taliban, and installed a client regime under Hamid Karzai, a wildly corrupt and borderline incompetent leader who was, all things considered, probably the best we could do at the time. We eventually had a falling out with Karzai and his government, and Afghan democracy democracy moved on. The country has remained in a slow-motion civil war, with the Taliban waxing and waning conversely with U.S. interest in this unhappy little corner of the world. The NATO occupation and other foreign spending accounts for the lions share of Afghanistans formal economy; the lions share of the real economy is producing opium for the heroin trade, a field in which Afghanistan enjoys a 90 percent share of the world market. We spent millions of dollars importing Italian goats into Afghanistan, hoping to create a thriving cashmere-production industry. The goats went missing and were presumed eaten, according to Newsweek. Worse things have happened to goats. This week, President Trump gave a speech on Afghanistan, in which he said that his initial instinct was to pull out but that his military advisers had persuaded him to step up the U.S.
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NR ought to move its offices, and not tell him.
Apparently, no one realized that goats are exactly the wrong critter to introduce into a place like that!!! ;)
What is it we are doing in Afghanistan? What do we think we are doing in Afghanistan?
We've been there sixteen years. What is the end game?
Actually, Mexico has recently become the major Heroin source.
So the writer has some facts wrong. How many more I wonder.
Not familiar with him, but did he ask the same questions of Obozo?
I partially agree - indeed, we can not change the culture or violence of Afghanistan, especially with our own phony, multi-culti, politically-correct delusions playing in the background.
But leave Af-Pak, and what does one do when it again becomes a base for some Sunni terror group, attracting Muslim youth from across North America and Europe?
Will we do the next most reasonable thing - ban any Muslim visitor from South Asia? Ban travel?
I highly doubt it.
Maybe for heroin refining. But you can't make heroin without opium, and Mexico doesn't produce any opium poppies. So the ultimate source is still Afghanistan.
I think Rumsfeld said that we need to fight them over there, so we won’t have to fight them over here.
What is it we are doing in Afghanistan? What do we think we are doing in Afghanistan?
I’ll take a crack at it:
1. we are Expanding the Opium Production and Profits and an incredible rate, I saw it on the News last night.
2. We are being led to believe it is about killing terrorists.
The war on drugs cannot exist without drugs, the Heroin epidemic in this country exploded soon after invading Afghanistan and has increased dramatically every year since.
Seeds of Terror
How heroin is bankrolling the Taliban and al Qaeda.
Drug shipments off of Africa have significantly increased since 2009
Drug trafficking, kidnapping fund al Qaeda
By Rachel Ehrenfeld, Special to CNN -May 4, 2011
Qatar used as transit point by drug traffickers: Expert 2013
Obama secretly released high risk Taliban terrorists to the care of Qatar. (Qatar is where the US established for Taliban headquarters in 2011.)
Islamic Revolutionaries under any name you google are tied to the Heroin trade along with most other drugs, as well as human trafficking.
Heroin production hits record levels in Afghanistan - study
Drug War? American Troops Are Protecting Afghan Opium. U.S. Occupation Leads to All-Time High Heroin Production
Terrorists in Americas Back Yard
State Department Reports Hezbollah Increasing Drug and Terrorism in South America 2013
There has indeed been a marked resurgence of Iranian state sponsorship of terrorism over the past 18 months. But as the new Nisman report drives home, heres an even more disturbing fact Iran has run intelligence networks in the United States backyard to sponsor, foster and execute terrorist attacks for decades.
Criminal plans by Iran could be under way in Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay Suriname and Trinidad and Tobago, the report said.
Mexican Cartels Buying Afghan Heroin
The horrific toll of Americas heroin epidemic
Americas Heroin Epidemic -BBC 2014
The SEC sees no evil while Wall Street banks launder $BILLIONS in cartel
Hedge Fund Manager, Banker, and the largest Individual donor to Obamas coiffeurs, continues to pour $Millions into thenDrug Legalization Campaign, made to look like citizen activism. George Soros 2/2014
As medical marijuana legalization spreads across the country, police and other industry warnings about the dangers of legalizing marijuana ignored by media
DEA has been caught laundering money as well, Agency officials declined to publicly discuss details of their work, citing concerns about compromising their investigations.
Mexican Diplomat Says America Pretty Much Invited The Sinaloa Drug Cartel Across The Border
Obama shut down the NDIC in 2012, the itelligence agency dedicated to tracking terrorism funded by drug trafficking.
Mexican cartel violence is at an all-time high along the increasingly porous southern border yet the Obama Administration has shut down a critical intelligence agency dedicated to identifying, tracking and severing the nexus between drug trafficking and terrorism.
CONFIRMED: The DEA Struck A Deal With SINALOA Mexicos Most Notorious Drug Cartel (They claimed feds agreed they could traffic into Chicago) JAN. 13, 2014
U.S. Government and Top Mexican Drug Cartel Exposed as Partners
Written by Alex Newman Jan. 2014
The link between drugs and crime, including violent crime, would be hard to overstate in Chicago. Eighty-six percent of adult males arrested in Chicago last year tested positive for drug use. Chicago, with a population of 2.7 million, had 506 murders in 2012, the highest per capita among the four most populous U.S. cities.
The Truth About Chicagos Crime Rates (cooking the books)
Dirty doctors, Russian mafia fueling prescription drug and heroin abuse in N.J., investigation finds
Opiates are now the leading cause of accidental deaths, surpassing car crashes and alcohol. http://elitedaily.com/news/world/prescription-painkillers-overtake-car-crashes-leading-accidental-death-us/
Banks Laundering Cartel Drug Money -Rampant
BORDER CRISIS: CONGRESSMAN SAYS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAUSING HUMAN TRAFFICKING
Cartels Exploit Immigration Crisis To Smuggle More Drugs Across Border
By Frank Diez July 03, 2014
Mexican Cartels are Behind Border Crisis -2014
Drug dealing, informant get border pass -2014
EXCLUSIVE: Photos Show Drugs Pouring Over Southern Arizona Border as Agent Resources are Overwhelmed Jul 08, 2014
The Obama Administrations Human Trafficking
July 11, 2014 by Arnold
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After the author mentions that the muslim subhumans ate the goats, he notes "worse things have happened to goats".
We did see the drone footage of "date night" in Afghanistan.
He’s right. We are wasting time and treasure. What is the end game? What is victory?
You’re wrong. There is a sweet spot for growing opium in Mexico for growing the opium producing poppy and the drug cartels in Mexico have moved into it.
Mexico was producing opium poppies back in the 70's.
I doubt the weather has changed that much.
Actually, you arent correct. About 96% of the worlds non-pharmaceutical opium crop comes from Afghanistan. Mexico isnt even close.
From the world atlas.
Land Area Devoted To Cultivating Illicit Opium Poppies
1 Afghanistan 225,000 hectares
2 Myanmar 58,000 hectares
3 Mexico 15,000 hectares
4 India 12,250 hectares
5 Laos 6,200 hectares
6 Pakistan 2,300 hectares
7 Colombia 298 hectares
8 Iran 100 hectares
The deep state needs us to remain in an endless campaign in Afghanistan to keep the opium money flowing to them and to fund the CIA black ops programs.
Step 1 of getting us out of there is to annihilate the opium crops.
And for those who aren’t familiar, a hectare is roughly 2.5 acres.
Re: “Actually, Mexico has recently become the major Heroin source.”
Maybe for transport and distribution.
But growing it?
Where are the thousands of acres of poppy fields, and why don’t we ask Mexico to destroy them?
I really didn’t find much to disagree with until his gratuitous bashing of Trump and his supporters. Why is it the supposedly clueless “Trumpkins” got this a long time ago, while his fellow self-congratulatory big brains and NRO mostly still don’t?
It’s never going to stop. Every paycheck set aside 50 bucks to fight Islamic terrorism, for the rest of your life, as every other American will do. It is like insurance, or a 401 K plan to preserve a peaceful future or just plain taxes. I hate it, but it was the same in the Cold War.
Do I want to fight wars forever?
Why do we have 1000 FBI cases that are chasing Islamic terrorists in all 50 states? When is that over? What is that cost? What is the endgame? Orlando? Nice France? Barcelona? 9/11?
You can stay home and wait for them to come...and they will come because they said they are going to come. If 99% of Islam is peaceful, it is irrelevant, since the 1% has shown themselves to be more than capable of committing acts of horrendous violence. Yet we see that large portions of the Muslim world believe in Sharia, and in the punishment of death for leaving their faith or insulting the Prophet. We are running a footrace while holding a bottle of nitroglycerin.
When they struck the WTC in 1993, they said they would come back and knock it down, and you know what - they did exactly that. In 1998 Osama Bin Laden issued the fatwa that every Muslim on Earth has an Islamic duty to kill Americans, yet we did nothing. Clinton let him escape.
Osama Bin Laden has also said that Muslims have a religious duty to use nuclear weapons against America. Every expert has said it is not a question of “If”, it is a question of “when”. They will get nukes, there are too many out there, and 100 pounds of plutonium will level Manhattan, and send the world into a decades long depression. The Russians in 1989 abandoned stockpiles of highly enriched uranium and plutonium, and what separated those bomb grade materials from people walking up and taking it was a chain linked fence with a lock. They do not know if some of these amounts were stolen, they were not tracked. Their suitcase nukes were placed in countries they believed they would be at war. They could be in the US already. None of this is difficult, especially with suicidal terrorists. We need to be close to the toxic pool where these monsters live, and we have to shoot them from the shore. We need to know what they are doing. Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. I don’t want any of this, but waiting for them to come is a fool’s errand. (Just keep killing, and stop wasting blood and treasure on “nation building.”)
Killing terrorists is the goal and the more that are killed the safer the world will be. I just hope they get great at it. I’ll finish with General Curtis Lemay on war:
“I’ll tell you what war is about, you’ve got to kill people, and when you’ve killed enough, they stop fighting.”
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