You obviously won't admit you were 100% wrong on at least 4 declarative statements you have made on this thread - and have now regressed into the 'we did what we wanted no matter what the rules' mode. OK that was your experience...but I am BEGGING YOU: Quit making FAKE statements about military in general, based on your screwed up experience in it. central_va = FakeNavy
You can face reality or deny reality, you have choosen the latter.
Gee, my experience in the navy seemed real to me at the time. maybe I was dreaming.