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California lawmakers pass bill on storm water fees
sfgate.com ^ | 8/31/17 | ap

Posted on 09/06/2017 12:27:56 PM PDT by ColdOne

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Californians could see their water bills increase under a measure passed by lawmakers Thursday.

The legislative bill approved by the state Assembly would let local governments charge residents for storm water management systems without voter approval.

Supporters of the measure say it will help cities and counties prevent flooding and save water. Opponents say it violates Californians' right to vote on taxes.

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1 posted on 09/06/2017 12:27:56 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

California is run by Democrats, and they don’t give a crap about what’s legal, or not.

To Democrats anything that’s in their way to what they want is illegal whether it is, or not.

All rules are subject to breaking by Democrats, because no rules apply to them.

Just ask them, and then walk away ‘cause all they’ll do is lie.


2 posted on 09/06/2017 12:33:42 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: ColdOne

No Taxation without Representation doesn’t apply anymore.


3 posted on 09/06/2017 12:34:16 PM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA)
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To: ColdOne

Taxing us for rain water.

Next up, taxing us for wind blowing.


4 posted on 09/06/2017 12:37:10 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: ColdOne

I’d be careful with this.

It’s the right idea (fix a problem at the lowest level), but it could be used for the wrong purpose (using the funds for other purposes).

Since the Democrats are behind it, I’d tie this baby down with some specifics.

I don’t trust California Democrats.


5 posted on 09/06/2017 12:43:19 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ColdOne
Storm water management should be a primary function of any local government.

I don't know how California law works, but it seems preposterous to have this sort of thing subject to a voter referendum.

6 posted on 09/06/2017 12:45:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: ColdOne

I have mused with the idea that perhaps there is a giant democrat conspiracy to simply make California unlivable for the average paycheck maker through crime, high taxes etc, forcing a mass exodus, and making lebensraum for the illegal population. The dems will then have their own mini-Venezuela to lord over.


7 posted on 09/06/2017 12:46:15 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: ColdOne

In Maryland they tax you on your roof runoff - you’re taxed on the size of the roof and the the runoff that goes into the storm drains. https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbrown/2014/01/03/when-it-rains-it-pours-tax-dollars-in-maryland/#40bb081e7c69


8 posted on 09/06/2017 12:47:19 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Liberals Do Not Want Children To Be Children)
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To: PROCON

>>No Taxation without Representation doesn’t apply anymore.<<

No, those fools in my old home keep electing democrats who then tax everything that doesn’t move (or as with gasoline and water, that too).

They will keep doing it until their lucre goes down. Which just doesn’t look like it is happening.

Massive rent/home costs, massive energy costs, mostly low income jobs that minimum wage will reduce — I have no idea how or why Californians stay there. I got out.


9 posted on 09/06/2017 12:56:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The UK has no death penalty, unless you are an 11 month old infant with no arrest history)
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To: blueunicorn6

Of course it won’t be used for what it is intened for. Where is all the money the customers have paid all these years to the water people......yep pensons.

CALTRANS, LADWP do not fix the roads or water pipes in L.A...only when they break. LADWP gives 250million a year to the city general fund. Then they ask for a rate hike of 250mil and they get it.


10 posted on 09/06/2017 12:58:52 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever! It is offical, we are at war!)
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To: Alberta's Child

>>Storm water management should be a primary function of any local government.<<

California, at the state and local level, thinks governments job is to transfer as much wealth as possible from the makers to the takers.

Then at night these thieves (legislators) can go to bed and say to themselves “oh, what a good person I am. I took money from the evil rich (of which I am not even if I am worth millions since I give OPM away) and arranged for colostomy bags for illegals.”


11 posted on 09/06/2017 12:59:29 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The UK has no death penalty, unless you are an 11 month old infant with no arrest history)
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To: ColdOne

I’ve honestly never seen a more incompetent bunch of fools in my life, as the political leadership in California.

Each time I think I’ve seen some of the most preposterous things that they could do, they prove me wrong.

Obama Highway? Superseding the citizens right to review and approve or deny new taxes?

These leaders are the ENEMIES of our people.


12 posted on 09/06/2017 1:02:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (One man's DACA, is 330 million other men's caca.)
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To: DoughtyOne

They are not incompetent...they are criminals and thieves of taxpayer money.


13 posted on 09/06/2017 1:12:02 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever! It is offical, we are at war!)
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To: ColdOne

I think it’s more “6 of one and half a dozen of the other” than you may think.

Yes, they have a legally challenged Leftist ideology, but then that’s because they are seriously challenged when it comes to issues and decent training.

I don’t object to your take on it. One leads to the other IMO.


14 posted on 09/06/2017 1:18:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (One man's DACA, is 330 million other men's caca.)
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To: DoughtyOne

;)


15 posted on 09/06/2017 1:20:48 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever! It is offical, we are at war!)
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To: ColdOne

“:^)


16 posted on 09/06/2017 1:30:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (One man's DACA, is 330 million other men's caca.)
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To: ColdOne

Then Californians will have to fix it.

Houston is at an earlier stage of this.

If money is collected for one purpose and intentionally used for another, isn’t that stealing?

The criminals may have a (D) after their name, but they are still criminals.


17 posted on 09/06/2017 1:35:43 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rockinqsranch

FWIW, OH is run by supposed Republicans. We have no control whatsoever about continual obscene increases in sewer and storm water drain fees. We also have close to no control over high-density construction which will make the situations even worse.


18 posted on 09/06/2017 1:37:13 PM PDT by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: blueunicorn6

Most all politicians are crooks. It is out right stealing. California has been doing this for many years to the taxpayers.


19 posted on 09/06/2017 1:40:36 PM PDT by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever! It is offical, we are at war!)
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To: Alberta's Child

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Storm water management is ancient history in most of California.

Jerry Brown just needs the money for his electric train set, down in Pixley.
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20 posted on 09/06/2017 1:42:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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