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Row over AI that 'identifies gay faces'
BBC News ^ | 11th September 2017 | BBC News

Posted on 09/11/2017 2:37:48 PM PDT by Ennis85

A facial recognition experiment that claims to be able to distinguish between gay and heterosexual people has sparked a row between its creators and two leading LGBT rights groups. The Stanford University study claims its software recognises facial features relating to sexual orientation that are not perceived by human observers. The work has been accused of being "dangerous" and "junk science". But the scientists involved say these are "knee-jerk" reactions. Details of the peer-reviewed project are due to be published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

For their study, the researchers trained an algorithm using the photos of more than 14,000 white Americans taken from a dating website. They used between one and five of each person's pictures and took people's sexuality as self-reported on the dating site. The researchers said the resulting software appeared to be able to distinguish between gay and heterosexual men and women. In one test, when the algorithm was presented with two photos where one picture was definitely of a gay man and the other heterosexual, it was able to determine which was which 81% of the time. With women, the figure was 71%. "Gay faces tended to be gender atypical," the researchers said. "Gay men had narrower jaws and longer noses, while lesbians had larger jaws." But their software did not perform as well in other situations, including a test in which it was given photos of 70 gay men and 930 heterosexual men. When asked to pick 100 men "most likely to be gay" it missed 23 of them. In its summary of the study, the Economist - which was first to report the research - pointed to several "limitations" including a concentration on white Americans and the use of dating site pictures, which were "likely to be particularly revealing of

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ai; gay; gaydar; lgtb; technology
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To: Snickering Hound

Re #7:

You win.


21 posted on 09/11/2017 2:55:29 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Maxine Waters for House Minority Leader!!)
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To: Ennis85

But if it identifies people who support the U.S. Constitution, I’m thinking they’d be just fine with it.


22 posted on 09/11/2017 2:55:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (7.5 mos M/R joining dems to block Cons. agenda? No problem. Trump deal w/Dems, big problem! Ah NO!)
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To: Ennis85

Liberals are insane. They claim that gay people are “born that way” and then they denounce evidence that would lead to prove them right.

Crazy.


24 posted on 09/11/2017 2:56:15 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: Ennis85
I hate it when people say "actually" but actually that's a pretty good gay face Private Pyle. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
25 posted on 09/11/2017 2:56:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Ennis85
>>"Gay men had narrower jaws and longer noses, while lesbians had larger jaws."

Poppycock


26 posted on 09/11/2017 2:57:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Ennis85

27 posted on 09/11/2017 2:57:43 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Ennis85
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Dan Lipinski, Democratic Party, Illinois, United States House of Representatives

28 posted on 09/11/2017 2:58:50 PM PDT by ETL (See my FR Home page for a closer look at today's Communist/Anarchist protest groups)
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To: Red Badger

Men doing “Duck Face” is a dead giveaway? Who wouldu thunk?


29 posted on 09/11/2017 2:59:43 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: a fool in paradise
And while they will out their enemies, they still don’t like the possible outing from “just anybody” man or machine.

Given the high percentages of gays who are HIV+, and the expense of treatment, any company looking to lower their health costs would do well by excluding high-risk potential employees, while maintaining deniability of the real reason.

30 posted on 09/11/2017 2:59:55 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: ETL

LOL! Who is that?


31 posted on 09/11/2017 3:00:54 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: a fool in paradise

Ok, now take the photos of 10,000 gay men and women and compare them. Then you will go from having an “anecdote” to having what we like to call “data”.


32 posted on 09/11/2017 3:01:50 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Ennis85

Why are they so upset? I thought they were proud to be twisted.


33 posted on 09/11/2017 3:02:37 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Ennis85

Q1: Does it work?
Q2: If it does, what’s the problem?

Aren’t all gays now completely out of the closet?

Except for Dorkbama, of course.
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34 posted on 09/11/2017 3:04:43 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Ennis85

35 posted on 09/11/2017 3:04:58 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: Red Badger

I doubt it.


36 posted on 09/11/2017 3:11:15 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Ennis85

Apparently this gaydar software is 20Xs more accurate than Climate Change modeling software.


37 posted on 09/11/2017 3:11:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: fr_freak

“Teh ghey gene” isn’t in the nose or jawline.


38 posted on 09/11/2017 3:11:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run
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39 posted on 09/11/2017 3:14:32 PM PDT by ETL (See my FR Home page for a closer look at today's Communist/Anarchist protest groups)
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To: a fool in paradise
I'd agree that it's generally nonsense.

People can pick a gay face from a set of pictures about 60% of the time, when the pictures are half of gays and half of straights, so "gaydar" isn't totally a myth.

But if only 3% or 5% of the population is gay and people are seeing gay faces all over the place, it means that there are a lot of false positives, enough to call the idea into question. Source

Also, people become homosexual for different reasons and that may mean that they have different kinds of faces.

Gacy, though, has that kind of face because of his Slavic ancestry. Ethnicity has a way of messing up algorithms like this one.

40 posted on 09/11/2017 3:18:23 PM PDT by x
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