‘Winter is coming’: What do climate scientists predict for California?

San Jose Mercury-News ^ | September 12, 2017 | by Steve Scauzillo

[Oldeconomybuyer]

Several climate experts, flummoxed by the failure of a widely predicted El Niño to make a dent in California’s drought during the winter of 2015-16, are saying they are unsure what this winter will bring.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says December-February in California will be a winter with equal chances of normal, below normal and above normal rain.

“That means they do not know. There is no strong signal,” said Bill Putzert, the expert climatologist from NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, who incorrectly predicted tons of rain from the “Godzilla El Niño” for the 2015-2016 winter.

For this coming winter, however, with no El Niño in sight, he’s making a not-so-bold prediction: It’s going to be either wet or dry.

“Either we slip back into drought or we have a repeat of last winter,” Putzert said.

About the only thing meteorologists interviewed agree on was that the state is getting warmer. Climate change, involving the trapping of heat from the burning of fossil fuels, has raised the average winter temperature in the state 2.5 degrees over the last 100 years, Putzert said.

“Heat waves are more intense. They last longer. That has been measured. We know that California winters are warmer and the snowpack comes later and leaves earlier. That is a trend, not a forecast,” Putzert said.

“We are disturbing the natural system. It is an additional variable,” he said.

[rktman]

❄️⛄️. Still snow on Mount Rose visible from downtown Reno. Need more.

[HighSierra5]

Boy, the useful idiots eat this stuff up. If you can’t predict the weather for next season,or for the next few days, how in the world can you predict 50 years from now. The answer is you can’t.

[DAC21]

“They were skiing in California in July”

Mammoth went into August according to the LA Slimes.

[WKUHilltopper]

‘Winter is coming’: What do climate scientists predict for California?”

Sugar and spice and everything nice? With rubbers, of course.

[Sacajaweau]

That would be the Goldilocks Forecast.

[tired&retired]

Increasing darkness late in the day, followed by a period of increasing light in the morning.

Increasing coldness in the winter and increasing warmth in the spring.

Oh, that’s what they call climate change!!!

[morphing libertarian]

You are spot on and we had the same phenomenon the last few years

[oldplayer]

. . . and “no clear signal.” Isn't that one of the Ouji Board answers, or something that turns up in those “magic” 8-balls?

[wbill]

It’s going to be either wet or dry.

Phew. That's going out on a limb.

[ifinnegan]

“I have not the data that supposedly supports the above statement, but the statement itself with the rather outlandish claims on 2.5 degree rise (izzat C or F there, sport?) raises all sorts of red flags for this math/physics educated guy.”

Yes.

It’s utter nonsense.

[ifinnegan]

“Personally, there are more, and hotter, heat waves now in SoCal than when I was a kid, and FAR less rain in the winters.”

Nonsense.

Lived here my whole life.

[ifinnegan]

“Since you were a kid SoCal has become a lot more paved.”

So has the entire world.

These scientists have zero validated data to support their theory.

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[R_Kangel]

" .... flummoxed by the failure of a widely predicted El Niño to make a dent in California’s drought during the winter of 2015-16 ....."

..... They conveniently forgot to mention the record breaking rains that happened the next winter which did end the drought.

[cgbg]

“Climate scientists” are dropping below witch-doctor status into Neanderthal stone-worshippers.

How low can they go?

Chimp poop cultists coming soon to a university campus and MSM outlet near you.

[pfflier]

These scientists have zero validated data to support their theory.

I can't agree with you more.

[Vendome]

[libertylover]

Several climate experts, flummoxed by the failure of a widely predicted El Niño to make a dent in California’s drought during the winter of 2015-16, are saying they are unsure what this winter will bring.

But we're supposed to believe they know what the climate will be 100 years from now.

[Wuli]

“Heat waves are more intense. They last longer.”

Longer than when? Longer than the ones that came and went and came again in the 1700s-1800s, including those that nearly destroyed most of the ranches in Southern California. Farming in Southern California only made a comeback once irrigation techniques became better established and water was drawn from mountain sources and later the Colorado river, supplementing pumping from underground sources.

In reality the history of California weather is written in the land, from the coasts to the mountains - periods of multiyear droughts and “wet periods”, both with less consistency of one or the other than in many other part of the country; areas that have tended to be either a generally “wetter” clime or a generally drier one, with the exemptions being briefer than California has experienced sometimes.

[Yaelle]

No, there is some truth that it is dryer and hotter here, in the SoCal microclimate. More beetle infested trees, less water. It is meaningless. There is no correct temperature. It gets hotter, it gets cooler. It’s not our fault.