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Is Spain Going to Explode Over Catalonian Secession?
The Federalist ^ | 09/23/2017 | Megan Oprea

Posted on 09/23/2017 8:09:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The autonomous region of Catalonia has once again called for a referendum for secession from Spain, and all hell is breaking loose. Although the vote is still two weeks away, this week has seen a marked increase in tension and conflict between the two sides that’s quickly reaching a boiling point. The government in Spain, which calls the planned vote illegal, has frozen Catalonia’s access to public funds so that they can’t be spent on organizing the referendum. It is also trying to shut down its access to ballot boxes, although the Catalan government says it has 6,000 of them hidden away.

On Wednesday, the Spanish military arrested 14 high ranking Catalan officials and raided 41 Catalan regional government departments across the region. They have also raided newspapers to look for documents having to do with the referendum, following a judge’s order. This caused more than 40,000 protesters to take to the streets of Barcelona on Thursday night, which then provoked the Spanish government to send troops into the city. Tens of thousands are gathering again in the city today for more protests.

Demonstrating the severity of the situation, the government in Madrid had attempted to send 4,000 police officers to the region on Thursday in police boats which were meant to dock in Catalonia to deal with the escalating situation, but the boats couldn’t dock—the port workers wouldn’t cooperate. They either boycotted or refused docking access to the ships. The government responded by hiring ferries to be moored in the Port of Barcelona as temporary housing for police.

This Isn’t The First Time Catalonia Has Sought Independence

Catalonia has long called for independence from Spain. As recently as 2014, it tried to hold a similar independence referendum. At that time, the Spanish government pushed back, calling the vote illegal. That caused Catalan leaders to rebrand the vote as a “participation process” to see how much support the Catalan government had for political independence. Catalan leaders still faced legal consequences for holding that vote, something that was presumably meant to scare Catalonia off from holding another referendum.

That clearly didn’t work. This time around, Catalonia is much more defiant and is not taking no for an answer, which seems to be part and parcel of the populism that’s been sweeping Europe in the last couple of years. Now, it appears Catalonia’s boldness could boil over into the kind of civil unrest that Western Europe hasn’t seen in decades.

According to the Catalan National Assembly, the Spanish government “made a big mistake; we wanted to vote and they declared war.” Catalan leaders say what they really want, more than independence, is democracy: “The issue that is at stake today isn’t the independence — or not — of Catalonia,” Raül Romeva, Catalonia’s foreign affairs chief, told a group of foreign correspondents in Madrid on Wednesday, “but democracy in Spain and the European Union.”

Catalonians Want Choice More Than Independence

This reflects recent opinion polls that show support for independence in Catalonia has actually dropped; what people really want is simply the right to make a decision concerning independence themselves, democratically. It also highlights the increasing frustration with the EU and a rising sentiment that EU leaders are making decisions for member states without being held accountable in the way leaders usually are in a democracy—by facing re-election.

The government in Spain looks nervous. It doesn’t want its sovereignty challenged by the vote taking place. If the vote takes place under official Catalan auspices, it’s a tacit acknowledgement that Catalonia is a separate entity, perhaps even with sovereign rights. So the government in Madrid is coming down like a hammer, which only makes the Catalan people look more sympathetic.

Leaders of the Catalan independence movement say that Catalan lawmakers will honor the outcome within 48 hours of the vote, regardless of which way it goes, meaning they will declare independence if that’s what the voters want. If that happens, what next?

Beyond the clumsiness of the Spanish government’s handling of the affair, and the undercurrent of frustration with the high-handedness of the EU, the Spanish-Catalan dispute highlights a fundamental contradiction at the heart of Wilsonian internationalism: how do you resolve the tension between the declaration that ethnic groups have a right to self-determination with the idea that countries have the right to maintain their borders and sovereignty?

Megan G. Oprea is a senior contributor to The Federalist and editor of the foreign policy newsletter INBOUND. She holds a PhD in French linguistics from the University of Texas at Austin.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catalonia; eu; secession; spain
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1 posted on 09/23/2017 8:09:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Shouldn’t the Hispanics yield the southern half of Spain to the new Caliphate?


2 posted on 09/23/2017 8:12:02 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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3 posted on 09/23/2017 8:14:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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What the article fails to mention is that Catalonia is the richest and most prosperous region in Spain. They are sick and tired of their money being taken away and spent supporting the corrupt government and those seeking handouts.


4 posted on 09/23/2017 8:20:31 PM PDT by brewcrew1965 (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why are their signs in English?


5 posted on 09/23/2017 8:22:10 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What strikes me is how quickly the statists/leftists of Europe can act, and prepare for violence, when their interests may be threatened.

Europe’s been under invasion from Africa and the mid-east for a few years now, but there is only discussion, bureaucratic diversion and apathy. Its clear the Europe’s statists/leftists favor this invasion.


6 posted on 09/23/2017 8:22:15 PM PDT by PGR88
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Didn’t they have Orwell on their side?


7 posted on 09/23/2017 8:23:15 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: sparklite2

Probably for the International press.

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8 posted on 09/23/2017 8:24:05 PM PDT by Mears
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To: sparklite2

There’s a growing amount of support from around Europe, which I think surprises the Spanish federal government, the EU and various political folks. Newspapers have taken a pro-Catalonia view.


9 posted on 09/23/2017 8:36:47 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SeekAndFind

The BBC has a story on the mass movement of police and water cannon into Catalonia to put down the referendum.


10 posted on 09/23/2017 8:39:58 PM PDT by Spiridon
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To: pepsionice

Is this a Kurdish thing, ie, ethnic nationalism?


11 posted on 09/23/2017 8:45:13 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: SeekAndFind
On a related note....

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT CATS The foundation that administers the .cat domain for Catalonians just got raided by the Spanish police, but all the media wants to talk about is cats.

12 posted on 09/23/2017 8:45:47 PM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: brewcrew1965

What will happen to FC Barcelona?

La Liga has already said that they would not be allowed in the League, if Catalonia is Independent. So they would probably have to join the French league.


13 posted on 09/23/2017 8:52:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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The Kurds want their own homeland. The problem is...once you pull up a map and eyeball their discussed territory...it’s as big as the states of Tennessee and Kentucky. About 10-percent of Syria, 20-percent of Turkey, 20-percent of Iraq, and 5-percent of Iran....would make up this region. If you went worldwide, the Kurds number in the 35-to-45 million range (that includes folks in Europe, the US, etc).


14 posted on 09/23/2017 9:06:57 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Paladin2

We have new family involved in this fight. Pro-independence.

However, to be polite, I have not mentioned the little problem that a zillion Muslims have settled in Barcelona recently. They need Spain’s protection.


15 posted on 09/23/2017 9:12:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson ( Whites must sue for racism. It's pay day.)
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"a zillion Muslims have settled in Barcelona recently. They need Spain’s protection."

They will need to be purged, hopefully self selecting..

16 posted on 09/23/2017 9:15:15 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: dfwgator

Why would I care? I don’t watch soccer, or football, as the soon to be over run idiots call it.


17 posted on 09/23/2017 9:18:08 PM PDT by brewcrew1965 (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: sparklite2

Re: Why are their signs in English?

They are a mix of Spanish and English,
The latter to elicit support from the international community.


18 posted on 09/23/2017 9:18:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: sparklite2
Ferdinand ruled Aragon, Catalunia, and Valencia and he married Isabella who rule the larger castile to create Spain.

But only Catalans are seeking to separate while Aragon and Valencia are staying put.

But, also in Spain, the Basque, Galacia, and Andelusia also want to separate.

19 posted on 09/23/2017 9:27:23 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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The socialists in Spain and Europe mock nationalism and secure borders. Well if you mock your national heritage, you can’t be too surprised that even when you have power, your country starts coming apart.


20 posted on 09/23/2017 9:33:36 PM PDT by allendale (.)
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