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White House waives Jones Act shipping rules to help Puerto Rico
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | Melissa Quinn |

Posted on 09/28/2017 6:00:28 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: hal ogen

That sir is fake news or a lie. They can’t get the truckers because communication is down. Look it up


61 posted on 09/28/2017 10:12:56 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: hal ogen

A ro ro just opens a door on the vessel for stuff to drive off. Any one including the Army or marines or special duty national guard can do the driving


62 posted on 09/28/2017 10:56:14 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yahoo was running an article yesterday and the day before saying Trump will not send help to Puerto Rico. I left a comment there saying that the writer is lying and should remove the article.

Every lie needs to be challenged or it becomes the norm like Bush and Katrina.


63 posted on 09/28/2017 11:40:02 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Cold Heart

I really don’t know a lot about the Jones Act. I am sure that Puerto Rico took shipping from all over before the hurricane. So I am only guessing that Jones is tying the hands of US relief. In either case, I am not sure Jones is relevant today, since our merchant fleet is practically non-existent as a percentage of the worlds merchant ships.

Am I missing the point of your question, because I don’t see one?


64 posted on 09/28/2017 12:44:02 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44

You are missing the point of my question, yes.

The ships, American Flag, Large container ships and tankers, provided all the supplies to PR under the Jones Act. Regular liner runs, prior to the hurricane.

Are you assuming because PR had a hurricane that all these ships will stop carrying cargo to PR?


65 posted on 09/28/2017 1:09:25 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

No, I am not assuming that. What I am assuming is that the volume of necessary supplies and rebuilding materials exceeds the capacity of jones rated shipping in the short term. So I think I concur with the short term suspension.


66 posted on 09/28/2017 1:22:50 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: Magnum44

American ships, fully laden will be waiting outside the harbor for the port bottle neck to move the cargo.

Waivers to the Jones Act have been granted when there has been a real need and this may or may not be. And when there has been no need, strictly political.

I suspect American ships will be moving most of the cargo and a token foreign vessel will carry some just to show a foreign flag for the globalists.

The paint has dried on my boat parts, will go out and install. Be back to FR later


67 posted on 09/28/2017 1:52:02 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: minnesota_bound

While working on a Satellite system this afternoon, I had to listen to CNN as it was the only channel operating on this training system. The BS and lies coming from Wolf Blitzer trying to get each guest to agree that the Government just doesn’t know how to do it’s job of supplying relief to PR and it’s the President’s fault. Barf Alert, too late.


68 posted on 09/28/2017 6:26:09 PM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Cold Heart

There used to be a small carrier on the Miami river in the 80s that served USA ports in the Caribbean

Here’s a list of us flagged carriers

https://www.marad.dot.gov/wp-content/uploads/pdf/MAR620.US_.Flag_.Carriers.pdf

My guess it’s all Jones Act business

That’s the only way it can be cost effective to pay all those union wages and classification req


69 posted on 09/28/2017 9:50:28 PM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: wardaddy

Not all US marine carriers have union employees.

All carriers entering US and most civilized nation’s ports require the vessels to be built and operated to one of the classification societies.

Not all those companies are Jones act businesses.


70 posted on 09/29/2017 8:05:22 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart; Pelham

I was a shipowner

From 1986-1996 I owned three breakbulk freighters

I flew Maltese and Honduran flags

I ran Lloyds Register and Norske Veritas and Hellenic

I used polish engine room and Honduran seamen

Dutch German American Nicaraguan and one Sudanese captain

Back then if you were US flagged you had to pay scale wages which were crazy compared to what I paid

My polish engineers were 2000/month plus travel paid

US flagged scale was over twice that

US flagged did not require ABS but it did require top shelf classification society

The big five

ABS
LLOYDS REGISTER
BUREAU VERITAS
NORSKE VERITAS
GERMANSCHIER LLOYD

my info is dated admittedly

Our class inspector was based in Port of New Orleans

He did Inspectiond for Lloyds and others

A Nazi

I basically reskinned a freighter above the water line to suit him once


71 posted on 09/29/2017 8:36:11 AM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: wardaddy

“I was a shipowner”

I am happy for you. I had an interest in becoming a ship owner once but didn’t need or want all the headaches. I preferred the headaches of sailing on them.

“US flagged scale was over twice that”

And that there alone is a good reason for the Jones Act.

Along with national defense and “borders, language and culture”:)

“A Nazi”

“I hate these guys”


72 posted on 09/29/2017 9:19:01 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: wardaddy

I think you and I had this same exact conversation a couple years ago, except for the Nazi. I don’t remember him:)


73 posted on 09/29/2017 9:40:42 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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