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Why Did the Islamic State Claim the Las Vegas Shooting? ("Converted to Islam months ago")
The Atlantic ^ | October 2, 2017 | Graeme Wood, National correspondent

Posted on 10/02/2017 11:27:44 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 10/02/2017 11:27:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because it is free.


2 posted on 10/02/2017 11:30:37 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s possible or probable that they’re using Psychological warfare and taqiyya.


3 posted on 10/02/2017 11:31:51 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

to make themselves seem more powerful and scary than they actually are.

It costs them nothing to claim responsibility.


4 posted on 10/02/2017 11:32:28 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The picture of the supposed ISIS shooter that was on another thread looks nothing like the 60 something guy the LV cops claim is the shooter. ISIS is either looking for headlines or this is more fake news.


5 posted on 10/02/2017 11:33:10 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whenever you see mass shootings and murders, you will see ISIS claiming responsibility.

It’s their schtick. Take it with a grain of salt until there’s good evidence.


6 posted on 10/02/2017 11:34:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The article claims otherwise. They don’t just glom onto random attacks.


7 posted on 10/02/2017 11:36:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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With all his social media contacts and likes of various left radical groups ( now purged by ?) its not at all unlikely that he communicated even informally with IS who uses social media to proseletyze and recruit

While this may not reach the level of “ muslim conversion” ISIS would embrace his actions and praise him even if they simply had him in their data base of sympathizers


8 posted on 10/02/2017 11:38:46 AM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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Strangely enough, there appears to be another person of that same name (middle name is different but the initial is the same), but about 20 years younger and from Florida, who is an Islamic convert and even has a Muslim name - Samir al something.

The Israeli press reported this morning that Israeli secret services knew about this guy, and that was who they assumed it was. The report was taken down when his photo and local ID was shown.

So was this a case of mistaken ID, opportunistic claims by ISIS, or perhaps some utterly bizarre identity theft?

The whole thing was obviously planned well in advance, since there is no way they could have booked a room there and gotten the guns and platforms in at the last minute. ISIS made its Las Vegas threat in May.


9 posted on 10/02/2017 11:40:40 AM PDT by livius
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Why did ISIS claim it?

Because orthodox Muslims LOVE the idea of anyone killing infidels.


10 posted on 10/02/2017 11:40:42 AM PDT by PGR88
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Of course, insurance agents and Christians, too, sometimes consider the weather “an act of God.”

Insurance agents consider EVERYTHING an 'Act of God'.

Insurance agent: Your is covered for EVERYTHING except 'Acts of God', wars, riots, insurrections and revolutions.

Homeowner: What are 'Acts of God'? Insurance Agent: Tornadoes, floods, hurricanes, hailstorms, thunderstorms, high winds, meteors, comets, firestorms, earthquakes, volcanoes and sinkholes. Homeowner: Just what AM I COVERED FOR? Insurance Agent: Everything else........................

11 posted on 10/02/2017 11:47:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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This is the event that could easily trigger the General Confiscation. When you hear the screeching hysteria, you’ll know the process has begun.


12 posted on 10/02/2017 11:48:22 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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If their claim is a rare false one...

The Atlantic's staff goes on the record here saying they believe it is rare that the Islamic State makes false claims.

W O W !

The Left will always out itself given time.

13 posted on 10/02/2017 11:49:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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Why a lie?

1) Because ISIS follow the Koran’s instruction to lie.

2) Because they believe in “never let a crisis go to waste”

3) Because terror anywhere enables their “cause”.


14 posted on 10/02/2017 11:50:19 AM PDT by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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“insurance agents and Christians, too, sometimes consider the weather “an act of God.” “

It is not insurance agents but lawyers and the courts that use the term “Act of God” in determining potential responsibility.

Insurance liability is just one item in which the “Act of God” principle may be relevant.


15 posted on 10/02/2017 11:53:28 AM PDT by detective
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Truth and time will tell, assuming the powers that be tell us the truth.


16 posted on 10/02/2017 12:11:58 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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This is the event that could easily trigger the General Confiscation.

Alex Jones much?

Sheesh...

17 posted on 10/02/2017 12:23:17 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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If they lie about it, too many times, they become a laughingstock and can no longer recruit.


18 posted on 10/02/2017 12:25:48 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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The Atlantic's staff goes on the record here saying they believe it is rare that the Islamic State makes false claims.

There's a Freeper on another thread making the same claim.

19 posted on 10/02/2017 12:28:29 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: DoughtyOne

ISIS hasn’t done this previously with one exception. Why lie now?


20 posted on 10/02/2017 12:30:23 PM PDT by Solson (Trump 2020!)
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