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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: glenduh

That might have been a door to the bedroom in the main suite. Not the adjoining room.


241 posted on 10/05/2017 7:11:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: TigerClaws
Radar reporting the airplane fuel tank was for a CIA air base.

Not sure what this is? A new development today or something? I haven't heard anything about an airplane tank? Where did they find it and why did he have it?

242 posted on 10/05/2017 7:13:33 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: TADSLOS

That is Joe Kenda’s trademark phrase. Is that where you got it?


243 posted on 10/05/2017 7:14:15 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: glenduh

Correction. Just saw that detailed image. Interesting point. Perhaps that room got too smoky. Or once he saw the guard, he stopped shooting and closed that door as an extra defense.


244 posted on 10/05/2017 7:14:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: mylife

I think the Left wants to rumble.

We won’t start the fire, but we will put it out.


245 posted on 10/05/2017 7:14:57 PM PDT by exit82 (The opposition has already been Trumped!)
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>> Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting

Well, it was massacre.

The decision to ignore details in order to produce a timely conclusion is rarely a necessity — yet, it’s the norm too often for the wrong reasons. And the pursuit of the neglected details doesn’t make one a conspiracy nut.


246 posted on 10/05/2017 7:14:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: justa-hairyape

Confusing!

“When Campos approached Paddock’s suite, the shooter “fired through the door, striking Mr. Campos in the upper right thigh,” said Hickey who is president of the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America.
He faced well over 200 rounds, said Sheriff Joseph Lombardo of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police on Wednesday. “It’s amazing that that security guard didn’t sustain additional injury.”
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/us/security-guard-las-vegas-hotel/index.html


247 posted on 10/05/2017 7:15:37 PM PDT by glenduh
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To: glenduh

Because the media is blowing smoke up our butts again.

2 months ago so jihadi killed 86 and wounded 495 in Nice France with a TRUCK


248 posted on 10/05/2017 7:16:34 PM PDT by mylife
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

There would have been echoes off the oddly shaped Mandalay itself. And Vegas has glass covered high rises that are separated by a little distance. Lots of echoes off reflecting glass. Just listen to cabbie video. Multiple echoes can be heard.


249 posted on 10/05/2017 7:17:06 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Kaslin
Erostratus....Ephesus...
250 posted on 10/05/2017 7:17:46 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: mylife; gaijin

Ha, that’s a lyric from a Billy Curringtton song. But more likely, it ain’t simple at all.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3592387/posts?page=31#31

gaijin wrote:

“Here is a twitter source who knew and said Paul Manafort was under surveillance LONG before any media outfit reported same.

His sources are good, as is his track-record:

https://twitter.com/search?q=James%20B%20Scooping&src=typd

He has a number of points:

1. A male was in the room with Paddock. He left right before the shooting began.

2. The motive for the shooting was absolutely political. If the film is released, that political motive will be clear and “will absolutely change many things going forward”.

3. If the film of the shooting is not released, that non-release decision will be a fear on the part of the authorities that such release would trigger action by OTHER CELLS.

4. Paddock did plan to escape but that was cut short by the rapid response of the unarmed casino security guy.

5. Paddock mentions in the film being part of a NETWORK but does not specify if that network is AntiFa, or ISIS or any others.

6. A secret digital online profile of Paddock was uncovered about 24 hours ago.”


251 posted on 10/05/2017 7:20:14 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever)
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To: glenduh

wind shut it ?


252 posted on 10/05/2017 7:20:56 PM PDT by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: smokingfrog; Kaslin
"Does Vegas have any grassy knolls nearby."

Yes, two semicircular ones -- right inside the concert venue...</SARCASM>


253 posted on 10/05/2017 7:25:55 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias | "Islamists": Satan's assassins | "Moderate Muslims": Useful idiots.)
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To: exit82

NRA already stuffed their but up the LIBs arse.

We welcome an investigation into bumpfire stocks that Obamas ATF legalized

See you smarmy dicks in court...

Who made it against the law to report head cases when buying guns? Oh it was you guys again~
See you in court


254 posted on 10/05/2017 7:26:46 PM PDT by mylife
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To: TXnMA
How is it that no one was killed or injured by -- or, even noticed -- those two masses of glass crashing to the ground from 32 floors up?

Because the glass landed on the low roof running along the front of the building. You can see the roof in the posted image. I suspect most of the spent shells landed there too.

255 posted on 10/05/2017 7:27:01 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Kaslin

Questions.

1. Did each bullet injure or kill multiple people?

2. Were the bullets that hit the tanks intentional targets or were they hit while trying to break glass or possibly losing aim momentarily.

3.when he was interrupted by security guard, did the realization of the enormity of his killing so overwhelm his conscious with guilt that he could not live with what he did?


256 posted on 10/05/2017 7:33:36 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Conservative_Rob
Where are the thousands of rounds of spent brass?????

An AR pattern rifle ejects spent brass to the right and forward. The brass would be near the walls or windows; or went out the windows.

257 posted on 10/05/2017 7:35:25 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: justa-hairyape; Kaslin
Right now, I'm extremsly bandwidth-limited -- due to my #%$^&%* ISP (Verizon)'s "throttling" of my "UNLIMITED" bandwidth alloction. :-( Nonetheless, I used Google Earth to examine the scene.

Directly below those broken windows are low (?1 story?) roofs; no doubt the glass made quite a racket when it impacted them...

258 posted on 10/05/2017 7:36:49 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias | "Islamists": Satan's assassins | "Moderate Muslims": Useful idiots.)
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To: Kaslin

Floors 35- 39 owned by Saudi citizen.


259 posted on 10/05/2017 7:37:54 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: CaptainCarrollton

Just gathering data...


260 posted on 10/05/2017 7:38:26 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias | "Islamists": Satan's assassins | "Moderate Muslims": Useful idiots.)
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