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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: bushpilot2

We entered an age when corporations and political entities can manipulate citizens to commit acts like Las Vegas.


I can only speak for myself and can tell you I could not be manipulated into an act like Vegas. Are you saying you could?


361 posted on 10/05/2017 9:44:18 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: TigerClaws

Assuming he could get out and then to the airport - he was a pilot. But I have my doubts that he really thought he could do it.


362 posted on 10/05/2017 9:50:58 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: sparklite2

Some citizens...can be manipulated...thanks for correcting my grammar.


363 posted on 10/05/2017 9:55:24 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: McGruff

it is fodder for investigation of the FACTS of a possible criminal conspiracy, not for beating down the folks who would like to assemble facts and think for themselves


364 posted on 10/05/2017 9:55:52 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Blue Highway

Yes...upper levels...


365 posted on 10/05/2017 10:05:31 PM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: Meet the New Boss

Got news today suggested the guard was part of the plot.


366 posted on 10/05/2017 10:10:19 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
He had a secret digital profile that was uncovered over the last 24 hrs.

Link please.

367 posted on 10/05/2017 10:13:43 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: TigerClaws
Got news today suggested the guard was part of the plot

I have a couple of problems with that theory, which as I understand it is that the guard offed Paddock, shot himself to appear a victim and then greeted police at the elevators.

First problem is that I gather the guard was actually on another floor beforehand talking to people who pointed him up to where the sound of the shooting had been coming from. Seems not to fit.

Second, I don't think Paddock would have allowed the accomplice to put a revolver in Paddock's mouth, he would have resisted and the accomplice would have had to shoot him differently.

368 posted on 10/05/2017 10:16:38 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: editor-surveyor
The sheriff has been on his trail for about 4 years...

BS! Stop with your lies, TROLL. That's not what he said.

...as you would know if you were paying attention to legitimate news sources...

The sheriff's press conferences were not legitimate news sources? Keep on trolling moron!
369 posted on 10/05/2017 10:53:36 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Iscool
What size magazine do you think the shooter was using in that volley of bullets???

I am no expert on the latest tech but the magazines I saw in the pictures that have shown up, appeared to be double stack type. I saw no drum magazines. Had he been real serious with the equipment that they claim he had he could have fired several thousand rounds, but didn't.

Hey, it appears that a 30 round magazine will empty in approx. 2 seconds while a 50 round magazine takes about 3 seconds...

The bump fire rigs are good for about half the speed of a full auto.

370 posted on 10/05/2017 10:55:07 PM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: justa-hairyape
The sheriff is not doing any investigating himself.

And what's your point ape? Which one of them fed him this medical information, less than a few hours after they found him? If you have a verifiable source, then share it, otherwise it's pure nonsense.
371 posted on 10/05/2017 10:58:49 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: TigerClaws

You do know that you really do need professional help, don’t you?


372 posted on 10/05/2017 11:00:52 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Terry Mross
His target was the secret government planes and fuel tanks. When they didn’t explode he turned on the easy targets at the concert.

I will play along because I agree (fuel tanks), adding I believe somebody else was supposed to park the car close to the tanks and THEY intended to set them off first, pushing the crowd right at him... Mow them down in much larger numbers and escape in the ensuing confusion. I think its the reason nobody ran when shots started, he was not shooting at them yet. His accomplice left him hanging and it became a suicide mission...

373 posted on 10/05/2017 11:03:21 PM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: Kaslin

Did I misunderstand the news reports and sheriff’s comments about suspecting one or more helped this lunatic Paddock?
Hasn’t ISIS taken credit ...again?

I mean, when we know what we now about the FBI it’s hard not to question their integrity and truthfulness.


374 posted on 10/05/2017 11:24:23 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: TigerClaws

They are definitely operating under the possibility of more than Paddock being involved. I’m not sure they know for sure but they want to treat this collection of evidence and chain of custody with proper procedures IN CASE there is another person or people. Makes sense, but at this point doesn’t mean there is another or others.


375 posted on 10/05/2017 11:39:12 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: TigerClaws

Why does he/she claim the work for LVPD? It’s LVMPD and that’s how anyone who really worked for them would refer to them not LVPD.


376 posted on 10/05/2017 11:45:39 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

>>Show me where it was echoing

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3591880/posts?page=150#150

The cab driver video helps us understand what we’re hearing FRiends. Study it.


377 posted on 10/05/2017 11:49:56 PM PDT by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: rx

Did you see the story about what the female said? That he used to lie in bed and moan and scream?


378 posted on 10/06/2017 12:22:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: bushpilot2

https://stockzoa.com/ticker/mgm/

Who owns MGM Resorts


379 posted on 10/06/2017 12:22:34 AM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: jonno

As another FReeper said - crazy doesn’t need a motive it just needs a purpose.


380 posted on 10/06/2017 12:25:31 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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