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1 posted on 10/22/2017 10:11:49 AM PDT by JP1201
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Drug trafficking brings in as much as $750 billion in the US each year.

Would love to see a source for that number. A *credible* source that is. I don't believe it for a second.

2 posted on 10/22/2017 10:13:32 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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It’s not gun violene.

It’s people violence.

End those people, end the violence.


3 posted on 10/22/2017 10:14:16 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Trump's election does not release you from your prepping responsibilites!)
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Racing to the bottom...


4 posted on 10/22/2017 10:16:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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Given that as the term is commonly used, the majority of deaths from "gun violence" are suicides, ending the War On Drugs wouldn't eliminate such violence.

That doesn't mean it's not still a good idea, though.

5 posted on 10/22/2017 10:20:23 AM PDT by Simon Green
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[With the horrific shooting that recently took place in Las Vegas]

O.K.......this is the author’s opening?


6 posted on 10/22/2017 10:20:35 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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I don’t know if Cain was stoned when he killed Abel (or was it the other way around?), but I’m fairly certain he didn’t have access to a gun when he wiped out one quarter of the earth’s population.


8 posted on 10/22/2017 10:21:42 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Guns aren’t violent.

People are violent.

The violence of people will be here as long as people are here.

That is all.


9 posted on 10/22/2017 10:22:17 AM PDT by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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How ‘bout we just abandon hope?


10 posted on 10/22/2017 10:22:36 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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I don’t see that doing so would end gun violence. However I still think it’s a good idea to end it. And with it hopefully a whole lot of this unconstitutional asset forfeiture. Which is not forfeiture at all, it’s confiscation.


12 posted on 10/22/2017 10:23:28 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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Build the wall!


15 posted on 10/22/2017 10:28:03 AM PDT by Amendment10
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If one is going to end the war on drugs, I would suggest ending my the silly practices of pointless emergency treatment and hospitalizations for the consequences of overdoses and IV drug use overwhelming city hospitals. If one wants to kill themselves with drugs, that’s their business.


17 posted on 10/22/2017 10:30:18 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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Or perhaps fight the War on Drugs like it’s an actual war.


18 posted on 10/22/2017 10:30:44 AM PDT by ealgeone
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That is a simplistic claim that holds no truth whatsoever. While there is violence related to the drug trade, it us not the only source ore reason for rising violence in this country. Thar rising violence is the direct result of the erosion & elimination of God in our society. Without God people do not police themselves.


20 posted on 10/22/2017 10:31:27 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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So that illegal Mexies can come to your neighborhood and burn down the legal competition.

I think I’ll go into FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.


21 posted on 10/22/2017 10:33:09 AM PDT by gaijin
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End the war on drugs by allowing the government to become the pusher, make the drugs free, and ration them to ensure that troublesome people get enough to keep them docile.

The drug needs a catchy name, however. How about “Soma”?


26 posted on 10/22/2017 10:42:02 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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The cartels bring dope to the cities where black gangs rule and handle distribution. While he is right about legalizing, there would be a bigger benefit to building the wall and stopping the NAFTA trucks and trains from Mexico.

But anyway, gun violence doesn’t really affect me. 90%+ of our gun crime is in cities ill never set foot in, and involves people I keep out of my life.
So in short, I don’t really care about reducing gun violence as much as a citybound lib would.


27 posted on 10/22/2017 10:44:05 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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I used to tell my students that a big problem with doing illegal drugs is that you have to deal with criminals. And maybe even worse, you have to adopt criminal traits—lying, sneakiness, justification for stealing, etc. All of these likely have a worse effect on you than, say marijuana. The criminals who are running the drug distribution are not nice people. They tend to get violent when they don’t get their way.

Legalization might sound like a solution to the problem, but somehow I doubt the cartels, or the small groups who have replaced them (I read that the breakup of the big cartels in Mexico has created an increase in violence. The smaller groups that replace them don’t have “discipline” of the cartels). There is some speculation that California’s wildfire problem is partially because illegal marijuana distributers are eliminating their soon-to-be legal competition.


30 posted on 10/22/2017 10:45:53 AM PDT by hanamizu
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Without regard to cause, I suspect the largest group of violent perps and victims are blacks. I suspect the 2nd largest group is Latino’s.


34 posted on 10/22/2017 10:51:47 AM PDT by umgud
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Portugal revised the totality of their official orgs' responses to illegal drugs with overwhelmingly positive results.

https://www.drugpolicy.org/sites/default/files/DPA_Fact_Sheet_Portugal_Decriminalization_Feb2015.pdf

A HUGE key to all addictions recovery turns out to be a reversal of the early life RAD (Reactive Attachment Disorder) DISCONNECTION problems. i.e. help the addicted form solid CONNECTIONS with positive, mature etc. individuals vs escaping into anesthetizing drugs and other addicted activities.

And in terms of CONNECTION--Brene Brown--has a TED talk and other videos on youtube that are top-notch on such issues as Power of Vulnerability, Connection, Shame, The Anatomy of Trust, Fear, etc. Note, Oprah is involved in a couple of the videos. So what. Brene is top flight. And her points are [u]from the data--250,000 data points from solid primary source research--NOT per se, her opinions.

Power of Vulnerability:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCvmsMzlF7o

Anatomy of Trust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewngFnXcqao

Listening to Shame:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psN1DORYYV0

Why Your Critics Aren't the Ones Who Count:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JXOnFOXQk

Faking it, Perfectionism and Living Wholeheartedly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YeulUgWNp8

Braving the Wilderness (incl FDR's Man in the Arena speech excerpt):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyKXHz3UwO8

38 posted on 10/22/2017 11:10:23 AM PDT by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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One huge problem to overcome, however, is that the oligarchy gets a huge part of its black project funding from illegal drugs.

And the death and mayhem of illegal drugs and law enforcement pretending to combat them is that it stirs up chaos, death and destruction--which the dark lord of the oligarchy loves.

And, illegal drugs help destroy families and particularly reinforce the destructive fathering meme.

39 posted on 10/22/2017 11:12:24 AM PDT by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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