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Victor Davis Hanson: The ‘Never Trump’ Construct
National Review ^ | October 24, 2017 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 10/24/2017 12:17:54 PM PDT by EveningStar

The president’s fiercest critics still do not grasp that Trump is a symptom, not the cause of the GOP’s internal strife.

For all the talk of a Civil War in the Republican party over Donald Trump, 90 percent of Republicans ended up voting for him.
 

Bitterness Over the 2016 Election?

So a vocal Never Trump Republican establishment had not much effect on the 2016 election. Voters do not carry conservative magazines to the polls. They are not swayed much by talking heads, and on Election Day they do not they print out conservative congressional talking points from their emails.

John McCain and Susan Collins are as renegade now as they were obstructionist in 2004. If in 2016 it is said that John McCain cannot forgive President Trump for his 2016 primary statements, it was also said in 2004 that John McCain could not forgive President Bush for how he won the 2000 primaries. Trump is called a Nazi and a fascist. But so was George W. Bush in 2006. Reagan in the campaign and during his first few months as president was slandered as a pleasant dunce as often as Trump is smeared as a mean dunce. If neocons are now on MSNBC in 2017 trashing a Republican president, paleocons were doing the same in 2006 over Iraq. Parties always have dissidents.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; gope; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; nevertrumps; trump; vdh; vdhtrump; victordavishanson
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1 posted on 10/24/2017 12:17:54 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

What drives the NeverTrumpers is trying to protect their 30 year bipartisan policy of non-enforcement of laws and borders with the goal of changing the demographics of the country.

George H W Bush, instead of implementing the enforcement measures of the 1986 amnesty that were to prevent the need of another, set in motion the illegal alien inundation that now numbers over 30 million.

The illegal alien inundation was intentional.

They invited those people here against our will and they do not want us restoring the rule of law and sending them home.

Trump broke through the Bush blockade of only nominating amnesty candidates that kept us from stopping the Cheap Labor Express.

NeverTrump is really NeverSovereignty.

The purpose of the illegal alien inundation is to dilute American citizens votes so they can institute their new world order.
US and our freedoms stand in their way.


2 posted on 10/24/2017 12:19:14 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: EveningStar

3 posted on 10/24/2017 12:23:29 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: EveningStar
and on Election Day they do not they print out conservative congressional talking points from their emails.

You're right, most of us just delete them without opening them since we know that they're packed with 'conservative' lies.

4 posted on 10/24/2017 12:31:49 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Nice summation!


5 posted on 10/24/2017 12:33:22 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: EveningStar

But I doubt that the reason working-class voters turned out to vote for Trump was that most writers at National Review and The Weekly Standard were against him.)


I don’t recall VDH being in Trump’s corner, either.
But at least he, unlike the Weekly Standard,
has come around.


6 posted on 10/24/2017 12:37:31 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Vendome

7 posted on 10/24/2017 12:38:11 PM PDT by IWontSubmit (2)
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To: EveningStar

Later


8 posted on 10/24/2017 12:40:00 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: EveningStar

Looks like the never trumpers are lining up for the big play since they can’t get anything to stick on the President. Corker not running except his mouth. Flake not running except his mouth. the big four holdouts on everything that Trump proposes, etc. They will all collude and propose a joint resolution to remove Trump as president by Article 25, Section IV of the Constitution. The news today is that Psychologists/Psychiatrists are lining up to testify. Now Flake devotes his entire speech to the idea that Trump is unfit to serve. They are taking a final, last shot, because if this is an unsuccessful coup, it will doom most of them to obscurity. Unfortunately, it will rip the country apart. Perhaps that has been their intention all along. In other words, if they can’t rule by themselves and not the people, then they intend to bring the whole system down.


9 posted on 10/24/2017 12:40:31 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: EveningStar
In a bout of virtue-signaling, this cadre had deliberately conflated opposition to illegal immigration with supposedly racist resistance to legal immigration, while damning principled conservatives as “nativist” and “xenophobes” simply for wanting existing laws enforced. It had preached free-market economics without worry for the losers of globalization, while many of its megaphones cashed in on the government-corporate-media nexus. And its prior presidents and presidential candidates had been reduced to mushy punching bags, strangely bragging about their own virtue in not responding to invective while their own supporters and defenders were left to be smeared and defamed. Worse yet, they caricatured the base voters who used to defend them while they themselves went on to defend, even if indirectly, their erstwhile critics.
Sigh. That could be the epitaph of VP candidate Jack Kemp’s presidential hopes.

I had great hopes for the man, up to that VP debate in which Gore illuminated the streak of elitism in Kemp’’s racial bona fides. The only thing Dole coulda done to have made a difference in 1996 - and even then, probably not enough - would have been to have nominated Thomas Sowell instead of Kemp for VP. At least the VP debate woulda been a hoot . . .


10 posted on 10/24/2017 12:48:39 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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There appears to be a good three or four different varieties of NeverTrumper.

The one we see still posting on FR most often is a social conservative who fell hard for Ted Cruz and just can't let go of it, he checked all the boxes on their little checklist but lost. Well, he was a horrible candidate to the point that I'm surprised he was elected to the Senate in Texas. He has zero social skills and no presence on the campaign trail. He's such a vaunted Constitutionalist that he (Oops!) forgot that he was a Canadian citizen. He lost. Get over it.

Then, there are the old warhawks in the hip pocket of the military-industrial complex, who view Trump as a threat to their little fiefdom. This would be McCain, his little sidekick Graham and many others. They know which side their bread is buttered on and Trump ain't on it.

Next, there's the weird hatred for Trump emanating from certain theological quarters that typically vote very conservatively, but whose favored candidates seldom govern very conservatively. That would be the Mormons. Romney, Flake, McMullin, et al. Very strange. It's as if they're hellbent on getting a Mormon in there for some reason.

I can't quite pin down where Paul Ryan belongs in this little miasma of butthurt, perhaps he's a fourth category all his own, or he's owned. Or both. An annoying, obstructionist little prick, whatever it is, that he is.

All the above have at various times plotted to derail the Trump Presidency and some of them still are. We'll see how bad they've got it when the Democrats inevitably spring their little 25th Amendment ploy. Every single one of them who joins in that effort deserve to be removed from office themselves.

11 posted on 10/24/2017 12:54:25 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Dead On

The Bush family sold out the US

They were promised a high place in the “NWO” if they did

George P. Bush for “King of North America”?

Who knows what they thought they were going to get.

But the cat’s outta the bag and the Americans are on to the scam to enslave us.


12 posted on 10/24/2017 12:58:51 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: EveningStar
>>> We are essentially left with just one cultural and class divide that characterized three groups within the Republican party: 1) new voters turned on to Trump by his attitude and brashness, 2) old voters turned off on Trump by his attitude and brashness, and 3) the vast majority that voted for Trump because they perceived him as at least marginally better than Hillary Clinton and what she represented. <<<<

Vast majority voted for Trump "because they perceived him as at least marginally better than Hillary Clinton and what she represented." REALLY??!!???

Everyday as more dirt revealed from the Obama's 8 year, we are reminded of the VAST difference between what Trump and Hillary represented is like night and day. What is this 'marginally better' thing?

13 posted on 10/24/2017 1:01:54 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: richardtavor

Most of us are not dunces, nor is POTUS a dunce.

I know one practicing psychiatrist, one retired psychologist, a retired psychiatric social worker and was once married to a now-departed educational psychologist. I bet a good number of Americans know a psychologist personally and a sizeable number may also know a psychiatrist.

Like any profession, there are internal, professional politics. University Ed Psych departments in the 1970s were
full of internecine drama. Advancement drove everyone.

The professionals and retired professionals I know today ALL say that no one can diagnose or profile someone they haven’t personally treated. It is not possible and is not permissible. And, once they have treated someone, professional ethics state they cannot discuss that patient/client.

If any practicing professional dared publicly diagnose Hillary, they would lose their license in an instant. All that protects those diagnosing Trump from afar is the political consensus of their profession.

This is not a *big play*. It is pathetic in so many ways, everyone should just snort and ignore it.


14 posted on 10/24/2017 1:02:56 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: RegulatorCountry

First of all Ryan is a member of the House so the political dynamics are a little different. All the others you named are in the Senate. Ryan’s problem from my viewpoint is simply he has been in office too long. Unfortunately he does a very good job serving his constituents, they love him so Cantoring him will be very difficult to impossible. His speakership needs to be threatened first. Put more pro-Trumpers in the House & Ryan will either have to see the light or lose his speakership. He loses his speakership he will be more vulnerable with his constituents.


15 posted on 10/24/2017 1:04:20 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

The House is by design the more populist, responsive governing body with short, 2 year terms. It may take more than one election cycle for these guys to out themselves but they inevitably do. Say what you will about Trump’s provocative style but he does have a unique gift of shining a light on the cockroaches to send them scurrying.


16 posted on 10/24/2017 1:09:02 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Exactly!


17 posted on 10/24/2017 1:11:10 PM PDT by Reily
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To: RegulatorCountry
The one we see still posting on FR most often is a social conservative who fell hard for Ted Cruz and just can't let go of it, he checked all the boxes on their little checklist but lost

Are those like the Palin worshipers?
18 posted on 10/24/2017 1:12:37 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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I don’t see any butthurt Palin “worshipers” exhibiting all the typical woebegone behaviors of diehard, loser-supporting spoilsports who do everything they can to undermine the winner who had the temerity to beat their golden boy or girl.

Do you? Other than being selected as VP candidate in 2008, what office has she pursued? None. I think she’s awesome myself, and I think she’s been treated very shamefully by establishment Republicans and by the media.


19 posted on 10/24/2017 1:18:30 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
I don’t see any butthurt Palin “worshipers” exhibiting all the typical woebegone

You must have missed them. They were around right until Trump emerged. They didn't see her for the C-grade reality TV star she was as some did.
20 posted on 10/24/2017 1:22:08 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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