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Guilty, Especially If Proven Innocent
Mitt Romney ^ | 11/11/2017 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 11/11/2017 2:22:09 PM PST by Lazamataz

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To: SSS Two
Romney's statement is undeniably true un-American

While you are correct, and that it is one thing that a person can make a voting decision on any criteria, it is another thing entirely to encourage a uniquely un-American concept -- that innocent until proven guilty does not matter.

41 posted on 11/11/2017 2:58:53 PM PST by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: COBOL2Java
I see the return of the good-old-boy network, and the new-improved glass ceiling.

Return?

42 posted on 11/11/2017 3:00:18 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: umgud

The left and rino right are willing to destroy by ruining their target’s reputation, their living, without proof or assessment of mitigating circumstances.

We must rid the country of these Swampers with every legal and moral means available.


43 posted on 11/11/2017 3:03:05 PM PST by amihow
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To: Lazamataz

Thanks Laz. I know what you mean. I get so pissed at RINOS like Romney and McLame that I can’t even see straight.


44 posted on 11/11/2017 3:08:57 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: SSS Two

I’d say it is true in theory but if you have one party that will lie, cheat and steal this plays RIGHT IN THERE HANDS...


45 posted on 11/11/2017 3:10:26 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Lazamataz

The thing is, that he’s correct.

In a republic, where the electorate decides, there is justice, investigation and vetting.

In a democrazy the people get to decide. And people decide based on all sorts of garbage - Including “He just skeeves me out. Here is a communist that I would ‘like to have a beer with’”.

of our current 535 legislators only 3 should be there. The rest are trash.

To this very day we are supposed to believe that Gary Condit didn’t kill Chandra Levy, and that Hillary Clinton is totally innocent in everything she has ever done.

And do we ? Nope. In our screwed up world, people get away with anything and everything.


46 posted on 11/11/2017 3:11:30 PM PST by Celerity
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To: DoodleDawg

Well, got me there. LOL. Maybe growth?


47 posted on 11/11/2017 3:11:30 PM PST by COBOL2Java (John McCain treats GOP voters like he treated his first wife)
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To: Celerity
The thing is, that he’s correct un-American

(repeated from another post)
While you are correct, and that it is one thing that a person can make a voting decision on any criteria, it is another thing entirely to encourage a uniquely un-American concept -- that innocent until proven guilty does not matter.

48 posted on 11/11/2017 3:13:10 PM PST by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: caww

Romney....like Drudge has also become a major Swamp player. He is huffing and puffing as hard as he can to blow the Conservative House and Senate down.

Watch Drudge. He’s been captured by the swamp creatures.


49 posted on 11/11/2017 3:13:56 PM PST by blackberry1
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To: Jane Long
I’d hit it.

What you did there?

I see it.

50 posted on 11/11/2017 3:14:04 PM PST by bagster (Mama tried to raise me better.)
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To: bagster; Jane Long
"I’d hit it."

What you did there?

I see it.

LOL!

51 posted on 11/11/2017 3:15:03 PM PST by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Lazamataz; samtheman; bagster; Mr. K
It reveals a very dangerous situation, a situation that shows that the Establishmenty is completely unrestrained by American customs, laws, and basic moral fairness. I suspect that the Establishment would even allow a systemic collapse of America. "Better to burn it and rule over ashes," they think, "then to lose power."

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You are right. And along those lines, I regret to have to say that I continually worry about the President's safety.

I don't trust these lefty/Globalist/totalitarians one bit.

They are the worst of people, and those sick types get desperate and do awful things to reach their ends. They do not see wining with moral deeds as important whatsoever.

52 posted on 11/11/2017 3:16:10 PM PST by a little elbow grease (...... it's hard to get by just upon a smile)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive; Lazamataz
proffread

Please tell me this delightful irony was intentional.

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lol

53 posted on 11/11/2017 3:19:50 PM PST by a little elbow grease (...... it's hard to get by just upon a smile)
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To: Lazamataz

Actually, that Republicans occasionally eat their own is one of the few good things left about the party.

One of the few things that separates Republican swamp dwellers from Democrat swamp dwellers.

The difficulty lay in the standard of evidence acceptable.

For Republicans, even when they are not hyper sensitized, the standard is in political matters properly a stink test no matter if it is a Rublicans or Democrat under consideration. It is true: in politics there shouldn’t be a presumption of innocence ... that really is for criminal matters just as it should be, but often isn’t in people’s zeal to get a pound of flesh out of the bad guys, in civil matters.

With Democrats they employ a double standard: when considering Democrats it is often that without conviction the evidence is not acceptable as evidence. Thus you see them tout the lack of CONVICTIONS during Democrat administrations. Simply: they do not accept evidence that can be given because it is not somehow proven in a court of law. The same is often true in theological matters as well: the evidence that is acceptable as evidence is so qualified that functionally evidences (which are acceptable) may not be given.

Conversely, the left most definitely employs a stink test in matters where us “not we” to their “we” are concerned. Thus you see the often speak about the many INVESTIGATIONS of Republicans (keeping in mind that Republicans don’t abhor investigating Republicans as a rule as they frequently have a fundamental break in attitude with Democrats when it comes to their own) as if proof, the occasional conviction or ejection from office as proof of a more general principal (of corruption), and in general the failings of Republicans are seen as hypocricy though them not caring about the misdeeds of Democrats is NOT seen as hypocricy. Likewise we see such assertions that women don’t lie about rape go completely out the door if the accusee is on the right (or “left”) side of when the seriousness of the charges matter.

So why does this matter? Well, Republicans still accept stink test more or less unconditionally ... this isn’t a bad thing; but, as Democrats (leftists) prejudice evidence, are frequently immune to evidence against leftist even as they are rhetorically easy going with respect to evidence against not-we this inherently biases the political and cultural terrain against non-leftist simply because these two groups co-exist.

The answer isn’t to become more like Democrats though, for two bads can’t make a neutral.

The left will be bad. As with the victim mentality there comes a point when you must let go of hope they will reform and just let the glue that we’ve hoped still binds us all fall away, for it has been some time that it has bound them to us except as a matter of convenience to them when conviviality in politics and governance serves their purposes.

Being deluded that old ideals of the common culture means something still doesn’t make it so and this is seen in how the social contracts the left speak of only grow in scope and invasiveness, with the sole exception of who is doing who or what (sexual escapades now basically being the best exemplar of the chasing after happiness many acknowledge) they never retreat or let something remain a matter not for government authority.

To this end we must NOT become creatures of emotion as they are but we must learn to accept incrementalism, only in roll back to their advance, and deal with them as enemies to all we hold dear, for politically that’s what progressivism has been (at least with respect to governance by constitutional means) since it appeared in the 19th century.

Don’t hate, just don’t care. Don’t tolerate what positive tolerance is demanded for. “Tolerance” is not a virtue even though it is to the left THE virtue, only challenged by a “niceness” that can be at once murderous and libertine even at it is practically puritanical when it comes to want of tolerating Liberty and associations that dares not need or want progressivism.

but to reject the left’s whole world view. To dissolve the glue that might give a false sense of having something in common with them by NOT CARING about their political views and wants, working to simply defeat them as enemies without the emotions

by separating from their poisons within rather than be poisoned by the expression of their ideologies. Not caring


54 posted on 11/11/2017 3:23:21 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

I also reject the left’s world-view, to include Mitt (R)Money’s.


55 posted on 11/11/2017 3:24:35 PM PST by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: McGavin999

Yep


56 posted on 11/11/2017 3:25:43 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: Rurudyne

Oh, and I did not address the rest of your missive inasmuch as it proceeds from an invalid premise: That there are two parties in Washington DC.


57 posted on 11/11/2017 3:25:44 PM PST by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: bigbob

I wouldn’t matter what the allegations were, Mittens would pop up out of his hole and support the GOP-E Uniparty without any data or proof.
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Just like he did in supporting the violent ANTIFA that traveled to Charlottesville to commit violence against a small group who had a permit to protest removing Lee’s statue.


58 posted on 11/11/2017 3:27:39 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: Lazamataz; Rurudyne

Oops ... the last two lines shouldn’t have survived edit.


59 posted on 11/11/2017 3:29:51 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Celerity

Gary Condit didn’t kill Chandra Levy

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Are you serious?


60 posted on 11/11/2017 3:30:22 PM PST by snarkytart
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