Flynn Splits from Trump Lawyers

NY times ^ | November 23, 2017

[Heff]

A Split From Trump Indicates That Flynn Is Moving to Cooperate With Mueller

[FreeReign]

Here is the bottom line. A potus can fire an FBI director To say he can do it without repercussions no matter the circumstances is wrong...and it SHOULD be wrong

Here's the bottom line.

If the House Judiciary Committee thinks that the executive branch isn't investigating a crime, then they can do their own investigation. They don't need the FBI to do it.

Congress can, investigate, draw up articles of impeachment and impeach a president who maliciously doesn't investigate and prosecute any crime including a president's own crimes.

However if Congress were to impeach Trump because Trump fired an FBI director, for whatever reason, they(Congress) would be impeaching Trump for unconstitutional reasons.

[RummyChick]

Once again...he can’t do it no matter the circumstances with no repercussions

Wait and see

[RummyChick]

You are claiming there can never be obstruction of justice by a potus when firing an FBI director

You are wrong

So we will wait and see

[FreeReign]

All of you claiming that president hillary Clinton can fire an fbi director no matter the circumstances and face no repercussions just amaze me.

You, claiming that the FBI director and the AG don't answer to the president on all of their matters, amazes me.

So again, I will ask you, who do they answer to?

Nobody? The Deep State?

[kabar]

Here is the bottom line. A potus can fire an FBI director To say he can do it without repercussions no matter the circumstances is wrong...and it SHOULD be wrong

You have turned our Constitutional system on its head. The President is in charge of the Executive Branch. The President nominates the FBI Director who must be confirmed by the Senate. All political appointees including cabinet officers, ambassadors, generals, etc. serve at the pleasure of the President. When a new President assumes office, all political appointees must submit their resignations.

What repercussions are you talking about? There is always the possibility of political fallout from any Presidential decision, but firing political appointees is well within his authority and that includes selecting their replacements.

[JohnyBoy]

>To say he can do it without repercussions no matter the circumstances is wrong...and it SHOULD be wrong

So you’re saying that the president is not actually in charge of the presidency? That’s a stright up leftist lie.

[kabar]

What repercussions are you talking about? Do you think there are legal consequences? Lincoln fired a number of generals. HST fired MacArthur. Comey has no legal basis to prevent the President from firing him and naming a permanent replacement.

[ETL]

Yes, I believe Trump initially was misguided in his views on Putin and Russia, but then was 'schooled' by people in-the-know who he selected to fill top administration positions.

Because both Flynn and Manafort absolutely did have some troubling close ties to KGB/FSB Putin.

In Dec, 2016, Michael Flynn sat two seats from Putin at his private table at a Russia Today gala to mark its 10th anniversary. Russia Today (RT) is a state-run propaganda “news” outlet. No wonder wise top officials in the Trump administration didn’t trust him, even before he reportedly gave assurances to the Russians that recent sanctions would be lifted by Trump. Something he failed to brief Pence on. The guy was an obvious Putin stooge. This is why our resident Putinistas are so upset about him leaving.
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"It was December 10 [2016], and Vladimir Putin was the guest of honor at RT’s 10th anniversary dinner, at Moscow’s Metropol Hotel in the shadow of the Kremlin. ...”

“Seated next to Simonyan at the dinner and just two seats away from Putin himself was perhaps the most intriguing example of how the Russians have gone about recruiting disaffected members of that establishment: a rugged-looking man in a tuxedo who less than 18 months earlier had been head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s powerful in-house equivalent of the CIA.

Michael Flynn, now a private citizen after a reportedly disgruntled retirement, was not there to gather intelligence. His attendance at the RT [Russia Today] gala, before which he also gave a talk on world affairs, appeared to inaugurate a relationship with the network—presumably a paid one, though neither Flynn nor RT answered queries on the subject.

Flynn now makes semi-regular appearances on RT as an analyst, in which he often argues that the U.S. and Russia should be working more closely together on issues like fighting ISIL and ending Syria’s civil war.

“Russia has its own national security strategy, and we have to respect that,” he said in one recent appearance. “And we have to try to figure out: How do we combine the United States’ national security strategy along with Russia’s national security strategy, despite all the challenges that we face?”...”

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-russia-today-rt-kremlin-media-vladimir-putin-213833
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Michael Flynn, was a "semi-regular" guest on the state-controlled Russian propaganda media outlet, Russia Today (RT).

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NSA Advisor Michael Flynn seated next to Russian President Vladimir Putin, and Jill Stein (for good measure) at the 10th Anniversary Gala for Russia Today [RT].

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Lot's more on RT (Russia Today) here:

Michael Flynn (lifelong Democrat/Obama appointee), "news" outlet Russia Today, and KGB Putin

2/14/2017, 1:32:43 PM · by ETL · 19 replies

various sources (links provided) | Feb 14, 2017

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3524810/posts

[ETL]

NEW! Nov 23, 2017

New Manafort travel docs reveal closer ties to Russia: report

Fox News, Nov 23, 2017

Paul Manafort had taken 18 trips to Moscow and was in contact with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s allies for more than a decade before running President Trump’s 2016 election campaign, a new report said Thursday.

Manafort, who was indicted by a federal grand jury last month on 12 counts including conspiracy against the United States, had also taken at least 19 trips to Kiev to work with a pro-Kremlin political faction before joining Trump’s team, McClatchy reported.

The news outlet cited flight records they obtained from Ukrainian authorities as well as intelligence gathered from current and foreign government officials. The new evidence suggests Manafort’s ties to the Kremlin go much deeper than previously thought.

Even after the February 2014 fall of Ukraine’s pro-Moscow President Viktor Yanukovych, Manafort continued to go to Kiev another 19 times in fewer than two years while working for the smaller, pro-Russian Opposition Block party, McClatchy reported.

Some have suggested Manafort had been turned into an asset acting on Moscow’s behalf.

“You can make a case that all along he ...was either working principally for Moscow, or he was trying to play both sides against each other just to maximize his profits,” Daniel Fried, a former assistant secretary of state who communicated with Manafort during Yanukovych’s reign in President George W. Bush’s second term, told McClatchy.

“He’s at best got a conflict of interest and at worst is really doing Putin’s bidding,” Fried, now a fellow with the Atlantic Council, said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/23/new-manafort-travel-docs-reveal-closer-ties-to-russia-report.html

[FreeReign]

You are claiming there can never be obstruction of justice by a potus when firing an FBI director

I'm saying based on Constitutional principles, that Congress can investigate, draw up articles of impeachment and impeach a president who maliciously doesn't investigate and prosecute crimes including a president's own crimes.

[FlingWingFlyer]

I guess cooperating with the communists to overthrow the elected President of the United States sure beats going to prison for something YOU did.

[RummyChick]

I do not believe a Potus gets carte Blanche to obstruct justice...and his intent is being carefully investigated.

Could be why he ends up not pardoning flynn..iT will be used against him as to intent

I have no interest in posting to everyone who keeps posting to me

Find me and apologize later..or say I told you so if I am wrong

Btw.. . all of you conveniently forget Jaworski and his argument before scotus that was never decided

Dont think Mueller will go there..but he might

[JohnyBoy]

>Flynn now makes semi-regular appearances on RT as an analyst, in which he often argues that the U.S. and Russia should be working more closely together on issues like fighting ISIL and ending Syria’s civil war.

That’s Trump’s actual policy on the Syria civil war which quickly brought an end to ISIS. Are you going to argue against what worked out best in our interest because it was also what worked out best in Russia’s interest?

[RummyChick]

But conveniently forgetting Jawaroski and starr who think it is possible to indict a sitting president

[JohnyBoy]

>I do not believe a Potus gets carte Blanche to obstruct justice...and his intent is being carefully investigated.

Then you’re not a Conservative. The Constitution gives the president unlimited authority over his employes when it comes to firing them. If Congress wants to investigate an issue they are free to do so and frankly that’s their function under the Constitution. The executive branch has no business investigating the president.

[FreeReign]

But conveniently forgetting Jawaroski and starr who think it is possible to indict a sitting president

I haven't forgotten Jawarski's and Starr's POV. Doesn't mean that I agree with it.

So who do you think that the indicter of a sitting president would answer to?

RIP principles of the US Constitution.

[RummyChick]

Are you trying to claim the special counsel law is illegal?

Going to try to say you know how scotus would rule on indicting a sitting potus..because you dont know

[RummyChick]

You dont have to agree with it. You have to acknowledge it is a valid argument that hasnt been decided

And likely won’t be this time..either

[FlingWingFlyer]

I thought little Bobby Mueller was hired to investigate if PRESIDENT Trump “colluded” with the Russkis the way Clintoon colluded with Lynch on the Phoenix tarmac. Why the hell is he going after these people? That should be somebody else’s job.

[ETL]

Re: Flynn now makes semi-regular appearances on RT as an analyst, in which he often argues that the U.S. and Russia should be working more closely together on issues like fighting ISIL and ending Syria’s civil war.

That’s Trump’s actual policy on the Syria civil war which quickly brought an end to ISIS. Are you going to argue against what worked out best in our interest because it was also what worked out best in Russia’s interest?

November 11, 2017

'Asked Saturday whether he believes Putin's denials, President Trump initially suggested the question of election interference needed to be set aside to focus on other concerns:

"Well, look, I can't stand there and argue with him," Trump said.

"I would rather have him get out of Syria; I would rather get to work ... on the Ukraine."

And, "he could really help us on North Korea," Trump pointed out.'

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/11/563481331/trump-putin-issue-joint-statement-on-defeating-syria