Posted on 12/03/2017 8:14:22 AM PST by 11th_VA
12:20 a.m.
The Senate has adopted an amendment that would allow parents to use 529 college funds to pay private school tuition for students in kindergarten through high school.
Parents could also use the tax-exempt funds on home-schooling expenses.
Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas offered the amendment to Senate Republicans' sweeping tax package. The vote was a 50-50 tie with Vice President Mike Pence casting the tie-breaker.
All Senate Democrats opposed the measure. Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska were the only Republicans who voted against it.
By the new rules the Republicans just wrote, this means we’re subsidizing your kid’s private education.
You subsidize public education for other people’s daughters and sons now.
Sorry, but just more meddling where they shouldn’t even exist.
How ‘bout kill the Fed. DoEd, parents/guardians pay for the education of their own brood (as the service it is). Nobody spends $$$ better than the owner (quality, quantity and outcomes would all improve).
Everyone seems to love to shout “smaller govt! Constitution!” and, in the next breath, “But, I’m willing to/for...”. Never a clean-slate, just ‘how do we shoe-horn XYZ into the current system/process’ (existing garbage = garbage out).
That is all well and fine.. but the ‘law’ of unintended consequences never gets factored in, when Congress decides what ‘we the people’ can or cannot do with our own dollars.
This is not a subsidy, it is a deduction. Net loser will be public schools.
Although I don’t expect to see a tax code compliant with Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers coming from the 115th Congress, patriots are reminded of the following.
One of the very few domestic policy issues that the states have actually expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to tax and spend for is the U.S. Mail Service (1.8.7).
So if a federal spending program is not reasonably related to the mail service, then patriots can bet that it is unconstitutional and probably be right most of the time.
In other words, the Founding States had expected the individual states, not the feds, to establish their own custom social spending programs, a given state’s programs ultimately depending on the services that the legal majority voters of a given state want.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]." —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"4. The issuing of a policy of insurance is not a transaction of commerce within the meaning of the latter of the two clauses, even though the parties be domiciled in different States, but is a simple contract [emphases added] of indemnity against loss.” —Paul v. Virginia, 1869. (The corrupt feds have no Commerce Clause (1.8.3) power to regulate insurance.)
"The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." —me
"Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." —me
“Sorry, but just more meddling where they shouldn’t even exist.”
Fine, then get rid of them - all K-12 “public schools”.
But don’t keep them open, anyone of them, on “charitable” grounds” and then tax people to support them.
Yet, admit it - THAT is never going to happen.
So, as you will not in our lifetimes eliminate taxes for K-12 public education, then at least make 100% of their use the choice of the parents and NOT something “public schools” thinks “belongs” to them.
But you go ahead and be what you think is a “pure” Conservative, like Don Quixote, and I’ll keep working on what I think will transform the commitment to K-12 education from the “public school protection racket” to a system where parents chose their kids school - public, private, secular or religious.
Jivanka’s way to try to make their rich, liberal friends in NYC still love them.
Disgusting.
It’s a horrible step. It is the country’s lower-middle and middle classes paying for Jivanka’s rich friends to save hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Sickening.
Not just the parents pay for those public schools.
The parents are actually a small fraction of those who pay for public schools.
Asking nonparents to pay for schools twice—including particularly opulent private schools for the rich is just wrong.
Good post.
529 contributions are nice for state tax deductions.
Explain your statement.
And I take back that 80% good I had said about Ted Cruz.
Sure—you’re excited to go massively on the federal dole for this, but it is yet another unfair, massive entitlement that will be abused. In this case there isn’t even any means testing and the benefits will overwhelmingly go to the rich.
What statement? I’ve made a few on it here.
Jivanka and their socialite friends will all take hundreds of thousands of dollars in deductions on this annually in a sickening concentration of taxpayers paying for excess and luxury for a few.
Yeah, public schools are expensive and mediocre, but we are all burdened with paying for them—not just those with children.
Good point. The public schools are trying to run a “one size fits all” educational system. Not all students are “equal” and have additional needs that public schools are not able to provide. Factor in the IQ and social implications of trying to maintain “equality” among all students of diverse backgrounds, you are seeing political correctness being taught instead of subject matter. And with the lowing of the academic bar, we have graduated snowflakes with educational qualifications unsuitable to maintain life-long careers in those fields.
I’m for anything that increases a parents economic resources that will allow them to send their kids to the best schools where they will get the education suited to their academic levels and career goals.
OUTSTANDING - perhaps I will vote for Cruz after all.
Time to ERASE Tenure for all teachers & professors....Never to come back.
Liberals own 'public schools' and they will not take a loss of dollars. Property taxes at the county level will sky-rocket... somebody will make up the 'loss'.
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